Mark-1
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{Snipped my needless conjecture!}
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RTI this Saturday
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r_h
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There's an account of the MOB incident here:
“It was like doing a MOB recovery wearing a neck brace” - says Round the Island Race 2024 man overboard skipper - Practical Boat Owner
“It was like doing a MOB recovery wearing a neck brace” - says Round the Island Race 2024 man overboard skipper - Practical Boat Owner
bedouin
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Seems like a very under-stated account of what looks like a very difficult situation - two MOB, a broken leg and inflated lifejackets.
I'd like to know what sort of triggers the LJs had - I know a number of people have recommended manual LJs in such conditions because of the dangers of premature inflation.
jlavery
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Very interesting reading. Very experienced sailors being disciplined, communicating, making firm decisions. Matches my real world experience of flashy MOB kit not necessarily being fit for purpose - especially as MOB is likely to be in rough conditions.
jlavery
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For wet racing foredeck work, pressure rather than water triggers are suggested. Although mine are all water, and I've been "dooped" many times on the foredeck without activation.
Gixer
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I'm pretty sure that's the rolling shutter on the camera that caused this. Seen similar anomalies before.
bedouin
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All mine are Hammar / pressure types - I thought they were pretty much ubiquitous these days.
Mark-1
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Superb article, thanks for sharing. I had thought sailing mags were obsolete. With quality reporting like that so soon after the event, I guess not.
flaming
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Bloody hell. Confirms one thing I've always said though. You rarely "just" have an MOB. You usually have other issues at the same time.
Superb seamanship demonstrated, clear decision making under extreme pressure.
Mark-1
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That's a really good point, a MOB is frequently a symptom of another problem. I'd never thought of that.
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capnsensible
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On a day like this
It's possible to sail through that gap on a Prout catamaran with a still rather drunk Australian owner. Threading the Needles. Once done, never forgotten.
It's possible to sail through that gap on a Prout catamaran with a still rather drunk Australian owner. Threading the Needles. Once done, never forgotten.
Neeves
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The PBO article is chilling (good report), an obviously good crew, good skipper - but it took 3 attempts to get the MOB on board. A husband and wife team are not comparable. Following yachts may have the best intentions but not the skills, huge opportunity for skull damage
There seemed to be too many people in the water, it seems an example offering the benefit of tethers, 2 per crew member, allowing one to move around the cockpit tethered and then tidying up after the move. There seems little point in having jackstays 'roughly under' the life lines, installed from the transom to forward and 'U' bolt hard points, all accessible from the cockpit - if they are not used because they are inconvenient. They need to be installed so they are convenient.
Jonathan
There seemed to be too many people in the water, it seems an example offering the benefit of tethers, 2 per crew member, allowing one to move around the cockpit tethered and then tidying up after the move. There seems little point in having jackstays 'roughly under' the life lines, installed from the transom to forward and 'U' bolt hard points, all accessible from the cockpit - if they are not used because they are inconvenient. They need to be installed so they are convenient.
Jonathan
Neeves
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I've never sailed there, where is the wreck that is referred to, I assume further offshore and beyond the light house? The Prout referred to sailed between the gap inshore of the 2 outer Needles? What depth is depth?On a day like this
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It's possible to sail through that gap on a Prout catamaran with a still rather drunk Australian owner. Threading the Needles. Once done, never forgotten.
Mark-1
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The remains of the Varvassi are two boilers, visible here:
Google Maps
Depth between the needles:
Navionics ChartViewer
capnsensible
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Plenty of depth for a Prout at high water!
Martin_J
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Yachting Monthly describes the often used transit to ensure you're clear of the wreck of the Varvassi.
Pilot the Isle of Wight: The Needles to St Catherine's Point - Page 3 of 16 - Yachting Monthly
Pilot the Isle of Wight: The Needles to St Catherine's Point - Page 3 of 16 - Yachting Monthly
Martin_J
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Although this next photo shows that on a lighter wind RTIR, it gets rather crowded around the Needles and the remains of the Varvassi are the three right hand circles below (which although visible from a drone, they're not at all clear from sea level)..
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Martin_J
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This Youtube video shows how solid the remains are..
flaming
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Can't do that on race day, the lighthouse is a mark of the course.On a day like this
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It's possible to sail through that gap on a Prout catamaran with a still rather drunk Australian owner. Threading the Needles. Once done, never forgotten.
capnsensible
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Yeah, done the race a rew times. Never without incident. Saw a boat flatted on the start line by the old hydrofoil. Was on that same Prout one year when the wind was so light the finish got shortened to Bembridge Ledge. Got hooked up on a lobster pot one year off Ryde Sands.
B7t I did get a 9th in class once on a rather tatty sailing school yacht. The two ladies in the crew turned up at the marina up the Hamble ....wearing high heeled shoes.
