colhel
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Even though we eagerly await the next chapter, no not reallyHi Eric.
You see my point
New build Sanlorenzo SL96A 2024
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alt
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@jfm - Thanks for the update and pictures, absolutely overwhelming for the likes of myself with a humble 37footer, but regardless, amazing to see.
Wishing all who sail on her enjoyable and safe cruising! Keep the pictures coming, as I (always) mention, being based in West of Ireland, it's nice to see pictures of boats with sunshine / clear water!
Wishing all who sail on her enjoyable and safe cruising! Keep the pictures coming, as I (always) mention, being based in West of Ireland, it's nice to see pictures of boats with sunshine / clear water!
Alicatt
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Such a beautiful boat and the attention to detail amazing, thanks for sharing the pictures and video of her.
Such a big difference between her and an almost 50 year old 11.6m cruiser.
Have lots of fun John.
Such a big difference between her and an almost 50 year old 11.6m cruiser.
Have lots of fun John.
vas
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Avatar = will do
If I may, would be nice to zoom a tiny bit out so we get the whole chase boat J.
(though maybe there's nothing on top and bottom of the pic to zoom out to...)
V.
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paradave
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This is simply phenomenal. Huge congrats on accomplishing this, it looks absolutely perfect.
MrB
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Total porn. The tender and chase boat matching just make even more special. The video is good too, well worth waiting for. 
Canopy Locked
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I can only echo what others have said - what an utterly magnificent vessel. Congratulations!
I do have a slightly geeky question.
There will be periodic inspections / time based inspections / lifetime replacements / hourly based maintenance? I also assume that the different manufacturers will have specific maintenance requirements for their own product. I know that there are the legal requirements (ie: LJ service date, etc, etc) and I assume that you'll have your own specific inspection routines built on your past experience.
Therefore, given this complex maintenance requirement, how do you manage / administer your whole maintenance routine?
I do have a slightly geeky question.
There will be periodic inspections / time based inspections / lifetime replacements / hourly based maintenance? I also assume that the different manufacturers will have specific maintenance requirements for their own product. I know that there are the legal requirements (ie: LJ service date, etc, etc) and I assume that you'll have your own specific inspection routines built on your past experience.
Therefore, given this complex maintenance requirement, how do you manage / administer your whole maintenance routine?
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Bouba
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That reminds me….the life raft needs servicing
jfm
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Hi and thanks
Not sure it's too much different from a smaller boat. It is built to class but not in class, and is CE marked, and is not coded. It will be for private use only. So...
- Engines are serviced annually as with any boat. Local MTU agent
- Generators are serviced at about 250 hours iirc either by agent, or by me if it's just an oil change. I don't care about warranty so I will change oil myself if that suits me convenience-wise. I have Reverso oil pumping for generators/engines/gearboxes, so oil changes are easy.
- Life rafts - I have 3 and they will be serviced every 3 years same as any boat
- Life jackets - I have solids (like on my previous boats) not inflatables so no servicing
- Watermaker - I have a great local specialist company who do this from time to time - usually each winter. I plan to fit a second back up watermaker
- Everything else is a case of monitor, carry a spare, duplicate, and replace if needed. It's not sensible to do much preventative maintenance on many items. I have back ups of anything critical so I would generally continue the trip and replace failed items when back in port. Duplicated things apart from engines and generators include fresh+black+grey water pumps, washing machines (3 off), dishwashers (2 off) , toilets (9 off!), all navigation gear, radars (2 off), VHF sets (2 off); internet sources (Starlink and SIM cards), back up internet router, steering actuators (2 off), hot water tanks and immersion heaters (2 off), air-conditioning chillers (3 off), batteries (there is a house set and an emergency set, and most sets are linkable so a good set can rescue a dead set), battery chargers, etc
So although things are bigger they are in principle the same as on a smaller boat, and this boat has more duplication than a smaller boat could. To your last question, I manage it myself and quite enjoy the geeky side of that. Lots of people are like that, including many/most on here. I don't want a boat with a captain, at least not yet, and that's why I'm at 29m LOA (=24m LLL) but it's not a bad place to be stuck
Bouba
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JFM, could you have got a commercial endorsement on your boat license and then a bigger boat?Hi and thanks
Not sure it's too much different from a smaller boat. It is built to class but not in class, and is CE marked, and is not coded. It will be for private use only. So...
- Engines are serviced annually as with any boat. Local MTU agent
- Generators are serviced at about 250 hours iirc either by agent, or by me if it's just an oil change. I don't care about warranty so I will change oil myself if that suits me convenience-wise. I have Reverso oil pumping for generators/engines/gearboxes, so oil changes are easy.
- Life rafts - I have 3 and they will be serviced every 3 years same as any boat
- Life jackets - I have solids (like on my previous boats) not inflatables so no servicing
- Watermaker - I have a great local specialist company who do this from time to time - usually each winter. I plan to fit a second back up watermaker
- Everything else is a case of monitor, carry a spare, duplicate, and replace if needed. It's not sensible to do much preventative maintenance on many items. I have back ups of anything critical so I would generally continue the trip and replace failed items when back in port. Duplicated things apart from engines and generators include fresh+black+grey water pumps, washing machines (3 off), dishwashers (2 off) , toilets (9 off!), all navigation gear, radars (2 off), VHF sets (2 off); internet sources (Starlink and SIM cards), back up internet router, steering actuators (2 off), hot water tanks and immersion heaters (2 off), air-conditioning chillers (3 off), batteries (there is a house set and an emergency set, and most sets are linkable so a good set can rescue a dead set), battery chargers, etc
So although things are bigger they are in principle the same as on a smaller boat, and this boat has more duplication than a smaller boat could. To your last question, I manage it myself and quite enjoy the geeky side of that. Lots of people are like that, including many/most on here. I don't want a boat with a captain, at least not yet, and that's why I'm at 29m LOA (=24m LLL) but it's not a bad place to be stuck
benjenbav
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Above this size you’re into serious pro-tickets.
I mean to say, I have a commercial endorsement (probably lapsed now) but no one’s gonna hand me the keys to the USS Delaware.
jfm
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Nope - commercial endorsement of a 24m licence doesn't allow you to drive a bigger boat.
The next licence up from a 24m (whether commercial or not) is 200 GT and any very experienced person here could fairly easily get that. It would allow me to run a flybridge boat of about 105/106 feet, but I would be subject to a ton of regulation that doesn't apply to a <24m boat, so the juice may not be worth the squeeze. A Sanlorenzo 106 doesn't give me much more than a 96, but never say never.
Next up is a 500ton licence but that requires stacks of sea time effectively serving as an apprentice, and so is suitable for people who want a career in yachting. Folks with a busy business life necessary to pay for the boat generally don't have time to qualify for a 500 ton licence.
So you end up in practical terms with the choice between staying under 24m LLL (= 29m LOA) as a self driver, or having a captain for anything bigger. With the possibility of having a self drive 200 ton boat (say 106 feet) as a halfway house, if you think the cost/hassle of getting the 200t licence is worth it.
Note the boat builders look at you a bit strangely in all this: Sanlorenzo told me they have never sold a new 96 footer to a self driver
The next licence up from a 24m (whether commercial or not) is 200 GT and any very experienced person here could fairly easily get that. It would allow me to run a flybridge boat of about 105/106 feet, but I would be subject to a ton of regulation that doesn't apply to a <24m boat, so the juice may not be worth the squeeze. A Sanlorenzo 106 doesn't give me much more than a 96, but never say never.
Next up is a 500ton licence but that requires stacks of sea time effectively serving as an apprentice, and so is suitable for people who want a career in yachting. Folks with a busy business life necessary to pay for the boat generally don't have time to qualify for a 500 ton licence.
So you end up in practical terms with the choice between staying under 24m LLL (= 29m LOA) as a self driver, or having a captain for anything bigger. With the possibility of having a self drive 200 ton boat (say 106 feet) as a halfway house, if you think the cost/hassle of getting the 200t licence is worth it.
Note the boat builders look at you a bit strangely in all this: Sanlorenzo told me they have never sold a new 96 footer to a self driver
benjenbav
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That’s fascinating. I guess for most on here the thrill lies in running your own boat. Different worlds.Sanlorenzo told me they have never sold a new 96 footer to a self driver
MapisM
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I suspected that.Sanlorenzo told me they have never sold a new 96 footer to a self driver
In fact, I was actually wondering if it isn't more common for her to have the 96 fully coded, rather than "only" RCD-compliant.
Bouba
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Having a reverso pump for every sump and gearbox is pretty neat
Wansworth
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Is it a family run boat or do ou have paid crew
Hurricane
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Sanlorenzo told me they have never sold a new 96 footer to a self driver
Also not surprised - I think most posters on here are of similar minds.
It falls into the category of "Why pay for a lovely boat if you are going to give it to someone else to drive".
And for me, like @benjenbav , the satisfaction of captaining a boat gives me a huge thrill - even when I get it wrong!!!
Alicatt
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I know I'm excited about getting drive my own new (to me) boat, a step up from 7.5m to 11.6m, not the biggest boat or even the fastest that I have been at the helm on, but it will be mine
Biggest boat was a RoRo car ferry, Scrabster-Orkney, when I was fixing the Decca Autopilot and had to prove it worked
but that was nearly 50 years ago.