Bouba
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That is the whole problem with boats....whatever you spill stays in there...and you can never get it out...fuel, black water, bolts, tools.....I think I have the rest of the diseasel production in the bilge of my boat
First Boat - what size?
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vas
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couldn't stand to read all of it, seems that these guys are not up to date with what the big german and other car companies are doing and the fact they seem to be kicking the can down the road.
I wonder where all these EVs will come from, because it doesn't look like they'll be european.
Alicatt
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My 25 year old son is looking for a diesel car just now, he had a petrol and did not like it, I told him it was because it's a BMW
ontheplane
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I may be out on a limb here.
To get back to the boat part of this post.
Whatever boat you buy as your first boat, won't be your perfect boat.... You will sell and buy another in a few years time and that will be closer to your perfect boat, but you'll probably be on your 5th or 6th before you get it "right".
So - almost as important if not more so - than getting the first boat right, is buying a boat that's easy to sell on. Your wife will want to use it in ways you haven't thought of.... you WILL sell it in a year or so, and you will have learned a load about what you want - so in reality you want something that is easy to re-sell. Don't spend too much - but if you buy rubbish it will be hard to sell-on so don't buy junk either.
So if we assume you want a nice boat for enjoying this summer you want something a "nice" size, in demand that will suit what you want to do with it - but when you've worked out why it isn't perfect you you will want something more "suited" so you want it to "fit" others needs too.
So don't go too small - the wife will hate it and will not enjoy boating - don't go too big either. Remember big boats come with big bills - and people with 50k to spend don't want £30k a year running costs.
My suggestion is simple - spend half your budget - 30-60k will still buy you a really nice 25-35ft boat - keep the rest, you'll want a bit of running cost money, and if you need to sell out of it and lose 5% you've lost less money.
Buy a "known name" - Sealine, Windy, Cranchi, Aquador, Fairline etc etc. Buy something "modern" looking - not something from the 80's - they are getting harder to sell now (with some exceptions). UK and well known American brands sell well, rare European brands will be much harder to sell.
Diesel used to be the powertrain of choice - now Outboard is more popular.
Berthing gets pricey as it gets longer - so 25-30ft or thereabouts is ok - but go up to 50ft and berthing will be expensive.
I would "sell it" to the wife as buying a "trial" boat for a season or so to see how you get on.......
I would buy something like these - they are common, popular, fun - and most importantly, the kind of boat people know so when you decide what you want to upgrade to, you'll sell it for what you paid for it (as long as you don't pay too much).
I would go for things like this...
Sealine S23 2003 Used Boat for Sale in Boats.co.uk HQ, Essex Marina, United Kingdom
Quicksilver Activ 705 2012 Used Boat for Sale in Lymington, United Kingdom
Aquador 26 HT 1999 Used Boat for Sale in Plymouth, United Kingdom
Doral 250 SE 2001 Used Boat for Sale in Torquay, United Kingdom
These are sporty and summer'y - they are small enough to single hand and if you have a £130k budget they won't break the bank in any way. They are well known models and should be easy enough to re-sell when the time comes. it would give you a good year on the water, and you'll know if you want anything bigger / smaller faster / slower etc etc.
If you DO want to spend more - you can buy quality boats still well under budget.
Doral 250 SE 2001 Used Boat for Sale in Torquay, United Kingdom - -Windy is a good make
Gobbi 375SC 2002 Used Boat for Sale in Falmouth, Cornwall, United Kingdom
Cranchi Smeraldo 37 2000 Used Boat for Sale in Levington, United Kingdom
Something like the three above are still well below budget, and would be an amazing intro to boating (I couldn't even dream of owning something that nice and I've loved boating for years).
Not being funny - but if your wife didn't enjoy boating on any of these, she isn't going to enjoy it any more if you spend £80k , £90k or £130k......
Just my input - not everyone may agree....
To get back to the boat part of this post.
Whatever boat you buy as your first boat, won't be your perfect boat.... You will sell and buy another in a few years time and that will be closer to your perfect boat, but you'll probably be on your 5th or 6th before you get it "right".
So - almost as important if not more so - than getting the first boat right, is buying a boat that's easy to sell on. Your wife will want to use it in ways you haven't thought of.... you WILL sell it in a year or so, and you will have learned a load about what you want - so in reality you want something that is easy to re-sell. Don't spend too much - but if you buy rubbish it will be hard to sell-on so don't buy junk either.
So if we assume you want a nice boat for enjoying this summer you want something a "nice" size, in demand that will suit what you want to do with it - but when you've worked out why it isn't perfect you you will want something more "suited" so you want it to "fit" others needs too.
So don't go too small - the wife will hate it and will not enjoy boating - don't go too big either. Remember big boats come with big bills - and people with 50k to spend don't want £30k a year running costs.
My suggestion is simple - spend half your budget - 30-60k will still buy you a really nice 25-35ft boat - keep the rest, you'll want a bit of running cost money, and if you need to sell out of it and lose 5% you've lost less money.
Buy a "known name" - Sealine, Windy, Cranchi, Aquador, Fairline etc etc. Buy something "modern" looking - not something from the 80's - they are getting harder to sell now (with some exceptions). UK and well known American brands sell well, rare European brands will be much harder to sell.
Diesel used to be the powertrain of choice - now Outboard is more popular.
Berthing gets pricey as it gets longer - so 25-30ft or thereabouts is ok - but go up to 50ft and berthing will be expensive.
I would "sell it" to the wife as buying a "trial" boat for a season or so to see how you get on.......
I would buy something like these - they are common, popular, fun - and most importantly, the kind of boat people know so when you decide what you want to upgrade to, you'll sell it for what you paid for it (as long as you don't pay too much).
I would go for things like this...
Sealine S23 2003 Used Boat for Sale in Boats.co.uk HQ, Essex Marina, United Kingdom
Quicksilver Activ 705 2012 Used Boat for Sale in Lymington, United Kingdom
Aquador 26 HT 1999 Used Boat for Sale in Plymouth, United Kingdom
Doral 250 SE 2001 Used Boat for Sale in Torquay, United Kingdom
These are sporty and summer'y - they are small enough to single hand and if you have a £130k budget they won't break the bank in any way. They are well known models and should be easy enough to re-sell when the time comes. it would give you a good year on the water, and you'll know if you want anything bigger / smaller faster / slower etc etc.
If you DO want to spend more - you can buy quality boats still well under budget.
Doral 250 SE 2001 Used Boat for Sale in Torquay, United Kingdom - -Windy is a good make
Gobbi 375SC 2002 Used Boat for Sale in Falmouth, Cornwall, United Kingdom
Cranchi Smeraldo 37 2000 Used Boat for Sale in Levington, United Kingdom
Something like the three above are still well below budget, and would be an amazing intro to boating (I couldn't even dream of owning something that nice and I've loved boating for years).
Not being funny - but if your wife didn't enjoy boating on any of these, she isn't going to enjoy it any more if you spend £80k , £90k or £130k......
Just my input - not everyone may agree....
ontheplane
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This might also be a good one...
Quicksilver 855 Activ Weekender 2015 Used Boat for Sale in Hamble River Boat Yard, United Kingdom
Quicksilver 855 Activ Weekender 2015 Used Boat for Sale in Hamble River Boat Yard, United Kingdom
ashtead
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Would one want a petrol engine though as per this quicksilver?
ontheplane
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There are millions of petrol boats - what's the issue?
I admit a diesel would be nice, but noisier, more expensive and slower. The point is - for a first boat you don't really know what you want so just make sure when you've done a year and DO know what you want (maybe) you can sell on the one you bought easily and without too big a loss.
I admit a diesel would be nice, but noisier, more expensive and slower. The point is - for a first boat you don't really know what you want so just make sure when you've done a year and DO know what you want (maybe) you can sell on the one you bought easily and without too big a loss.
Dazzer2
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Thanks, I’m decided I’m going to see lots of boats after all these suggestions and try and draw up a short list
Dazzer2
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PaulRainbow
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You might change your mind after year, but why would you start off by buying a boat that you definitely do not want ?
OP is looking at 37/38ft twin engine diesel, a petrol Quicksilver is about as far away from that as you can get. How would spending a year on a that teach you what you really would like, unless it reinforces your desire for the 37/38ft twin engine diesel sports boat.
Dazzer2
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Thanks after researching I’ve checked out costs and know it’s an expensive hobby I’m only 30 mins the the coast so lots of choice on marinas with different fees etcThe cost of keeping a boat can be crippling...and remember, some years you may barely get on the water. I’m lucky that I can boat year round....and I have great places to visit on my doorstep....do your sums carefully and bear in mind, man maths is your worst enemyAll in all it’s a great hobby, and a forty footer as a first boat ?...I envy you
ontheplane
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I haven’t heard anything about quicksilver, gobbi, doral or acquador, these are unknown to me, I’ve Heard about sealine, windy cranchi, bavaria, fairline, sunseeker
Quicksilver are good value - but not "premium£
Doral are (I think) Canadian - mid range, decent quality I believe
Aquador - Scandinavian - good quality - a bit more expensive.
I wasn't meaning buy those boats - what I was driving at was buy a boat that can be easily sold as your first boat is more likely to be a learning curve than your "forever boat"
Quicksilver are good value - but not "premium£
Doral are (I think) Canadian - mid range, decent quality I believe
Aquador - Scandinavian - good quality - a bit more expensive.
I wasn't meaning buy those boats - what I was driving at was buy a boat that can be easily sold as your first boat is more likely to be a learning curve than your "forever boat"
