Moving from Brighton to the Med - we're off!

[jonnybuoy]

Yep, for sure - sods law will ensure that the fab summer will be this one, because I won't have a boat here any more!

Haha let's hope so

: a few reasons:
1. relatively easy to get to, lots of flights, you can even drive if you're pushed
2. I sometimes need to be there for work
3. and because of 2. we've met a bunch of forumites who are already established down there, you might call them the mole sud posse (jfm is the sheriff...) and they are all very nice people

Makes sense. I think jfm is getting some sort of commission on the number of peeps he can get moved down there

Quotes came in at about £6k; a bit less if you can find a return load. Best chance for this is if you can be flexible on dates.

That sounds very reasonable - and is presumably much cheaper than sea transportation?

Cheers
Jon

 

[Ibiza boating]

Move to the med

We moved our SC35 from Falmouth to Ibiza last summer, I was still able to use the boat in November as it was 22 degrees then...

You get so much more use out of the boat over there and all though we loved the people in Falmouth, you just can't beat guaranteed sun.

In the England its all about keeping out of the water with auto life jackets etc but in the med its all about being in the water...no life jacket needed!

The bathing platform becomes the most important part of the boat...check my photos, boating in Formentera is like the Maldives but only 2.5 hours away

I left my canvas off my boat for most of last summer as it just wasn't needed...so cool to come back to the boat with it all open and inviting...cockpit space more important than saloon now and air con+gene essential.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

That sounds very reasonable - and is presumably much cheaper than sea transportation?

I didn't even bother getting shipping quotes, it's never going to be as cheap as a truck, specially for a small boat like mine. Also, the logistics of trucking are generally a lot more appealing - boat is being collected from the marina where it currently lives, and is being delivered directly to the marina where it's going to live. Easy. The only disadvantages as far as I can tell are the fact that some of the hardware has to be removed from (and therefore subsequently refitted to) the radar arch; the boat will get filthy; and inevitably it's going to have a harder ride down than it would on a ship. But (guessing) it's prolly 3x the cost on a ship...

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[benjenbav]

Lots of people have been busy on the boat over the past few days. Seacraft Marine have been busy installing the aircon; they've done an extremely nice job. Can't test it properly yet until the boat goes back in the water, but a short test run seemed ok.

It's been blimmin cold at Swanwick though, and when I got to the boat this afternoon I found that the Eber wouldn't start - I think the diesel has gone waxy in the very low temps. So it was a bit brrr on board today, although the air temp had risen to 6.5C.

The Lumishore surface mount underwater lights have been fitted, but not yet wired up - the priority has been to get all the below-water work done first. I probably won't complete the wiring up of these until week after next. And RK Marine have been busy on the leg and engine service; this is still in progress. One very annoying fault that became apparent as soon as the boat was lifted is that my steering rams have failed yet again. Grrr.

And picking up on the major debate from earlier in this thread, I got all the anchor chain out this afternoon, and slightly oddly I appear to have exactly 41m measured from the bow roller to the swivel. Either way - not enough, so this week I will be off hunting for a replacement length.

Cheers
Jimmy

What sort of wind conditions did you have in that pic? It doesn't look like the delta has set very well on a gravel/hardcore seabed but the chain seems to be holding everything just fine.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

What sort of wind conditions did you have in that pic? It doesn't look like the delta has set very well on a gravel/hardcore seabed but the chain seems to be holding everything just fine.

Good point. Catenary effect is rubbish as well.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[benjenbav]

It's prolly all down to the block of wood.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

What sort of wind conditions did you have in that pic? It doesn't look like the delta has set very well on a gravel/hardcore seabed but the chain seems to be holding everything just fine.

I think that proves my point and I win the argument with jfm. Clearly, jimmy's t40 isn't going anywhere and yet the anchor's only sitting on the sea bed

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

I didn't even bother getting shipping quotes, it's never going to be as cheap as a truck, specially for a small boat like mine. Also, the logistics of trucking are generally a lot more appealing - boat is being collected from the marina where it currently lives, and is being delivered directly to the marina where it's going to live. Easy. The only disadvantages as far as I can tell are the fact that some of the hardware has to be removed from (and therefore subsequently refitted to) the radar arch; the boat will get filthy; and inevitably it's going to have a harder ride down than it would on a ship. But (guessing) it's prolly 3x the cost on a ship...

Lots of disadvantages with shipping rather than trucking a boat. The first one is extra cost as you have pointed out. Second, you can never be sure when the bloody things are going to leave and whether or not your boat is loaded is always at the discretion of the captain. Third, they take longer to get there. Fourth, they only go to a couple of places like Palma or Gib which may not be where you want to go. Last, cargo handling on/off ships can be a bit rough.
IMHO, using truck transport especially for a sportscruiser where there are no overheight issues is a much better transport method especially if you use an experienced trucking co like Peters & May or Van der Wettering. Of course, for larger boats, there is no alternative other than transporting them by ship

 

[BartW]

The only disadvantages as far as I can tell are the fact that some of the hardware has to be removed from the radar arch;

what total height do you acheeve then ?

with my Karnic (28ft) I'm just below 4m, on its own trailer,
thats the max height on roads in mainland Europe,
unless they asc special permission / specific road traject re. bridges ???

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

what total height do you acheeve then ?

with my Karnic (28ft) I'm just below 4m, on its own trailer,
thats the max height on roads in mainland Europe,
unless they asc special permission / specific road traject re. bridges ???

Hi Bart

Transport height of the T40 with the goalpost removed is 3.9m. I don't know what the height of the transport trailer is, or what the limits are on the roads they follow.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[Jonmendez]

Ref dirty

If getting it dirty is a problem it can be shrunk wrapped for not a lot of ££££ they do a fab job and it also stops branch scratches if the driver is careless or the road narrow. With all the **** on the roads the moment a no brainer for me! Jon

 

[EME]

Shrink-Wrapping

Yes, excellent idea -- many if not most of the boats arriving down here from the UK now are shrink-wrapped.

What dates you looking at JLC? ..... I'm in UK for a few days in March but we'll sort it!

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

If getting it dirty is a problem it can be shrunk wrapped for not a lot of ££££ they do a fab job and it also stops branch scratches if the driver is careless or the road narrow. With all the **** on the roads the moment a no brainer for me! Jon

Hi Jon

I think it depends on your definition of cheap, really. Last time I looked into this it was high £00's. I've got a tonneau cover for the T40 so I was planning just to use that to protect the cockpit.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

What dates you looking at JLC? ..... I'm in UK for a few days in March but we'll sort it!

I'm hoping to get a firm date tomorrow, but latest indication is w/c 19 March. I'm slightly at the mercy of the trucking firm.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[ACE]

Jimmy

Your bringing back lots of memories

Here is mine arrive in Spain, she does get pretty dirty so I would go with a shrink wrap if its available it wasn’t for me we just used tarpaulins, lots of elbow required when she got there ….

The one thing I would watch out for is and please excuse me I am not very technical but I think it was the water intake elbows anyway the picture shows them if and when they lift the legs up on the trailer watch they don’t lift the legs too high as these are only rubber and tear very easily mine where a mess when they got down there and only really luck my guys spotted it before we put her into the water ?? They allow water into cool the engine….

Then the fun starts you’ve got to put her all together again !!! which wire goes where again ???

ALL good fun in the end !!!!

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Jimmy

Your bringing back lots of memories

Here is mine arrive in Spain, she does get pretty dirty so I would go with a shrink wrap if its available it wasn’t for me we just used tarpaulins, lots of elbow required when she got there ….

The one thing I would watch out for is and please excuse me I am not very technical but I think it was the water intake elbows anyway the picture shows them if and when they lift the legs up on the trailer watch they don’t lift the legs too high as these are only rubber and tear very easily mine where a mess when they got down there and only really luck my guys spotted it before we put her into the water ?? They allow water into cool the engine….

Then the fun starts you’ve got to put her all together again !!! which wire goes where again ???

ALL good fun in the end !!!!

Hi Ace

Hmmm, so that's three votes for the shrinkwrap. Maybe I'd better get a fresh quote.

Interesting point about the bellows, I'll watch out for that, thanks. The goalpost removal/refit shouldn't be too bad, I've already taken it off the boat once before.

All I've got to do now is to get RK to put the blimmin drives back on so that we can get it wet and try everything out before she goes...

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Hmmm, so that's three votes for the shrinkwrap. Maybe I'd better get a fresh quote.

Its probably a good idea but having said that I trucked my T48 back to the UK from SoF (to sell it) and also my previous Ferretti from Holland to SoF and I didn't bother with shrink wrapping. The company that did my Ferretti (Van d Wettering) were excellent and cleaned up the boat, put the flybridge back together again and relaunched it on arrival as part of the service. I would be more concerned about choosing a reputable transport company with good drivers who try not to take chunks out of your boat on trees and lamposts.
One point you do need to consider is insurance. Most trucking companies say they offer insurance but what they offer is standard CMR insurance which is calculated on a cost per kg basis and will massively understate the value of your boat. You should talk to your insurance co and ask them to specifically cover the boat to its full value for the journey, even if it means paying an extra premium

 

[kashurst]

when I trucked my boat last year the transport people asked about shrink wrapping. They prefered that it wasn't wrapped as often it comes adrift and starts flailing about - this can cause damage to the boat, so it seems shrink wrapping is a mixed blessing if going by road. Its probably better to wrap if going by ship to keep the exhaust deposits off. My boat was pretty dirty when it arrived but mostly dust and bits of leaves etc - easy to clean.

 

[volvopaul]

ACE if your elbows and hoses split when the drives were beached, there well past there sell by date and will require replacing otherwise you will one day get overheating probs when on the plane, the hoses should be nice and flexible.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

when I trucked my boat last year the transport people asked about shrink wrapping. They prefered that it wasn't wrapped as often it comes adrift and starts flailing about - this can cause damage to the boat, so it seems shrink wrapping is a mixed blessing if going by road. Its probably better to wrap if going by ship to keep the exhaust deposits off. My boat was pretty dirty when it arrived but mostly dust and bits of leaves etc - easy to clean.

Yep, this is what the transport firm I'm using have said this morning as well. So, I think it's a no.

Cheers
Jimmy