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Ummm, you can't just leave it there ... Tell us how it was to sailThat's me on the helm![]()
Ummm, you can't just leave it there ... Tell us how it was to sailThat's me on the helm![]()
Hmmm, I've Watched Toby Hodges review on Youtube about 50 times, and I had simply thought that article was the written version of the video and never read it ... never realised these were two different reviews.
And what would you do with one if you had one?????Looking back on some of the comments, I've just been in contact with Pogo, and for a spanking new 36 footer, no sails, electronics or windlass but with the lifting 3.1m keel (which now is their standard fitting, the fixed keel option is more money)....inc VAT......253k euros.
Oh, plus delivery charge to wherever you want.
Waiting time, 18month but might reduce.
For me, it would be UK Sails, B&G instruments, and have the missus lift the anchor (Rope & Chain).
Not getting it though, way too much Money.
I was originally quite interested in the Pogo. They look fantastic fun as they are planing along. It's clearly fast downwind!And what would you do with one if you had one?????
Depends on the J.I was originally quite interested in the Pogo. They look fantastic fun as they are planing along. It's clearly fast downwind!
I think Pogo supporters say they remain competitive upwind, but I also saw some opinions contrary to this.
Same with J boats. I think it is well acknowledged they excel upwind ( I believe they point extremely well) ... and J-Boat supporters will say the also go well downwind, but I also saw some comments contrary to this.
Doris what's your thoughts on the JPK. My understanding is that the JPK is designed to be good at all points of sail, and not specialise at any one?
Same as I do with my current Archambault 40, thrash it....!!And what would you do with one if you had one?????
Flaming has said it all re. J boat’s performance levels. One aspect worth bearing in mind is the alleged built quality question marks over various Js.Doris what's your thoughts on the JPK. My understanding is that the JPK is designed to be good at all points of sail, and not specialise at any one?
Sunrise, the 1180 that's won everything is off 1.099.Flaming has said it all re. J boat’s performance levels. One aspect worth bearing in mind is the alleged built quality question marks over various Js.
The JPK 30 is terrific off the wind, I’ve yet to really test it out uphill but it’s a cruiser. 12 1/2 Kts boat speed in 14 Kts of true on a broad reach without really trying.
It is not designed for IRC and will probably end up rating about 1.075/80, the 11.80 is faster on all points and rates lower, it’s designed as a race boat.
I’m sure I will get the 39 rated and do the occasional race, but only for focussed fun because corrected i will get buried.
I know plenty of forumites will not comprehend entering a race knowing that one is totally outrated but each to their own.
So far, built quality and attitude of the builders are all absolutely as one would want.Out sailing it was amazing quiet down below.
Interesting. Thanks for that, it was Jean Baptiste at JPK who told me that the 11.80 was rated lower than the 39.Sunrise, the 1180 that's won everything is off 1.099.
With a rating in the 1.075 region I'd expect you to be reasonably competitive distance racing. Would put you round about the First 40s, and I'd expect you to be quicker off the wind. Probably not going to be winning RORC races, but you should be respectable in JOG.
In the medium we don't. We soak. In the light we are very much in apparent wind mode.While the JPK wont be anywhere near that extreme I suspect I’m in for a definite learning curve. Flaming, when you power up downwind in a medium blow how quickly do you bring the apparent close to the beam????
i'm not following IRC much, as it isn't used anymore where I race..., but doesn't IRC allow a Large Roach Headsail now?Interestingly the JPK39FC that raced in this year's Agean 600 had a rating of 1.113.
GRE2030 called Phileas Fogg
Valid Rating Listings - IRC Rating
Valid Boat Data - IRC Rating
Looking at the boat data they are however rated for an absolutely massive genoa for some reason... Over 3m of overlap.... I can only assume that they have some sort of reaching furling thing and just decided to rate with it....
If you were serious about IRC there is no way you'd do that. So suspect you could save at least 20 points just by measuring with a normal non-overlapping jib.
They've also got the optional twin backstays for the square top main and are using the designed 5700kg weight.
Yes, exactly. My point was more that with even a small amount of attention paid to IRC, and with what I understand of the spec of the new Doris, he should expect a significantly lower rating than the Greek boat.i'm not following IRC much, as it isn't used anymore where I race..., but doesn't IRC allow a Large Roach Headsail now?
If so, I would probably get one of those for a distance race like the Aegean 600 - they are a weapon.
The LRH is a free-flying headsail, and presumably the sail on the boat in question does not measure as an LRH, so it counts as a genoa...
I'm sure you know - ORC allows the LRH tooYes, exactly. My point was more that with even a small amount of attention paid to IRC, and with what I understand of the spec of the new Doris, he should expect a significantly lower rating than the Greek boat.
Given the Agean600 is dual ORC/IRC scored, I strongly suspect that they were more interested in the ORC with that setup.
The one I went out on a couple of months ago is planned to be I believe. Maybe check with JPK.As an aside.., are there any of these for charter anywhere? I haven't seen any.
Or ask me very nicely next spring and come out for a play.The one I went out on a couple of months ago is planned to be I believe. Maybe check with JPK.