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how many times do you have to wait for posts to get approved on this forum? coming upto 3 days to get 3 posts approved?

Does every post have to approved?

It's because you are a new user, so your posts are held for the mods to review and release. They don't work on the weekends so your posts aren't being reviewed until the next working day. I imagine you won't have to post many more times to get to the end of the manual moderation.

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I guess that part of your problem is that you managed to extinguish the fire before it destroyed the boat!

Compare your sitution with an equivalent event in a car - the alternator overheats and catches fire, you quickly manage to pop the bonnet and blast it with a fire extinguisher, putting it out and leaving you with a charred alternator and some damage to the attached wiring loom. Would your insurance company pay out? Probably not - they would say that it was a mecanical fault and was between you, the manufacturer and, possibly, the garage that conducted the most recent overhaul. If, on the other hand, you had not managed to extinguish it and the car had burned out, then they would have paid up.
 

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the exact wording is posted up on the first page ? (in photo) or do you mean the whole policy ?

Problem with linking to whole policy is the insurance company name is on the download that im not going to name at the moment.



as for latent defect and boat specific, i believe that all models of boat the same as my dads have never suffered from fire damage before. I think all are still in service with no issues.

Some folks might have missed your photo of the letter because of the manual moderation issue.

What's the boat and the engine?

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I guess that part of your problem is that you managed to extinguish the fire before it destroyed the boat!

Compare your sitution with an equivalent event in a car - the alternator overheats and catches fire, you quickly manage to pop the bonnet and blast it with a fire extinguisher, putting it out and leaving you with a charred alternator and some damage to the attached wiring loom. Would your insurance company pay out? Probably not - they would say that it was a mecanical fault and was between you, the manufacturer and, possibly, the garage that conducted the most recent overhaul. If, on the other hand, you had not managed to extinguish it and the car had burned out, then they would have paid up.



daft really, you save the insurance company a fortune and they do this poop to you.

What do you think the outcome would of been if the boat burnt and sank, they lift boat out of water and trace the fault back to same problem? does that mean that i would have a totally destroyed boat now?
 

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Having now read the insurer's letter and the relevant clause in the policy (see above), and assuming the description of the fault as given in that letter is broadly accurate (I have nothing else to go on and haven't seen the boat myself!) the insurers are correct and you are not covered.

The damage is only to the engine and electrical gear; had there been damage to other parts of the boat you would be covered for that damage. But you are not covered for damage to the engine and electrics
 

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Not sure I agree JFM. What made the feed to the starter motor suddenly become live (may not be a Latent Defect). Also to take your post to a logical extreme, should the boat have sunk due to a Latent Defect with the hull would the damage to the engines be excluded?
 

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Having now read the insurer's letter and the relevant clause in the policy (see above), and assuming the description of the fault as given in that letter is broadly accurate (I have nothing else to go on and haven't seen the boat myself!) the insurers are correct and you are not covered.

The damage is only to the engine and electrical gear; had there been damage to other parts of the boat you would be covered for that damage. But you are not covered for damage to the engine and electrics



what would be the point in having insurance ? everything can be blamed on a latent defect?
 

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now i can post with out a Mod que, like to say thankyou to all that has helped with info. Reading through all the posts and some great help. thanks.

This forum needs a 'Thanks' button !
 

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What made the feed to the starter motor suddenly become live (may not be a Latent Defect).
Perfectly true. If the proximate cause was not a latent defect then he's covered. But I specifically said in my reply that I was taking the insurer's statement of facts as correct, because we have nothing else to go on. (As usual with these posts we only get half the facts).
 
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