How to get an annual berth in greece in a municipial harbour?

[Irish Rover]

As its thought by some, the first settlers in Ireland came from Britain I would have thought they crossed at the shortest sea route, possibly Mull to Antrim,

We're a bastard race, in more ways than one. Early settlers likely came from Britain and Western Europe. Then there was a big influx of Turkish farmers followed by Russians. Even the great man himself, who we'll celebrate next week, probably came from "that place".

 

[dunedin]

We're a bastard race, in more ways than one. Early settlers likely came from Britain and Western Europe. Then there was a big influx of Turkish farmers followed by Russians. Even the great man himself, who we'll celebrate next week, probably came from "that place".

And of course Russia is named after the Rus people, who were Nordic (aka incorrectly referred to as Vikings) Varangians. It’s all pretty complicated.

 

[billskip]

. Even the great man himself, who we'll celebrate next week, probably came from "that place".

Don't think Trump did, to be POTUS you have to come from the USofA

 

[DangerousPirate]

History is complicated.

I think the Scoti / Scots actually came from Ireland, not what is now Scotland.
The Angles / English were Germanic, not from what is now England
The "English" kings spoke French for centuries, and some spent little if any time on what is now Britain.

And when the Saint Marina was in what is now Turkey, that was centuries before Turkey existed. Indeed it may have been in an area ruled by Hellenic / Greco / Romans (who all got rather intertwined and confused as well).

That is correct. Initially they came from ireland. But they moved to what is now scotland, and then the name stuck for that region.

Sort of like the normandy is named after the normanns (a variation on the name for vikings), who came from scandinavia and just settled there, which then gave the area that name.

They're not originally from there, same as the scoti, yet they settled there and the rest is history.

Anyway. Wasn't this thread about greece or something?

 

[dunedin]

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Anyway. Wasn't this thread about greece or something?

Forum rules. Any question can be answered by post #20. Thereafter we should be able to drift the thread until reach Mornington Crescent

 

[Irish Rover]

Don't think Trump did, to be POTUS you have to come from the USofA

May God forgive you for such sacrilege

 

[dunedin]

May God forgive you for such sacrilege

I know the Moderators are omnipotent, but do you refer to them as “God” now?

 

[CAPTAIN FANTASTIC]

We're a bastard race, in more ways than one. Early settlers likely came from Britain and Western Europe. Then there was a big influx of Turkish farmers followed by Russians. Even the great man himself, who we'll celebrate next week, probably came from "that place".

..not an influx of Turks in the British Isles, the Turks were still in Mongolia then

 

[Irish Rover]

..not an influx of Turks in the British Isles, the Turks were still in Mongolia then

I don't know about the "British Isles" what or wherever they may be, but it"s pretty much accepted that farmers from Anatolia were the original bedrock of agriculture in Ireland some 8/10,000 years ago.

 

[st599]

I don't know about the "British Isles" what or wherever they may be, but it"s pretty much accepted that farmers from Anatolia were the original bedrock of agriculture in Ireland some 8/10,000 years ago.

I think the Seljuk Turks didn't invade the area that's now Türkiye until just over 1000 years ago. So the farmers did come from Anatolia but the captain's point is they weren't Turks.

 

[Irish Rover]

I think the Seljuk Turks didn't invade the area that's now Türkiye until just over 1000 years ago. So the farmers did come from Anatolia but the captain's point is they weren't Turks.

So does that mean the the descendants of the farmers who were in Anatolia before the Selçuks came are not Turkish now? There are some very clever people on this forum, and a great many more who just think they're clever, and a few of us who just keep it simple, because that's what we are.

 

[Davy_S]

We're a bastard race,

How dare you Sir, i am from Lancashire and so was my father!

 

[Irish Rover]

How dare you Sir, i am from Lancashire and so was my father!

You have my deepest sympathies.

 

[DangerousPirate]

So does that mean the the descendants of the farmers who were in Anatolia before the Selçuks came are not Turkish now? There are some very clever people on this forum, and a great many more who just think they're clever, and a few of us who just keep it simple, because that's what we are.

Well, you are correct about that. The descendants are turkish. But the ancestors were anatolians (as they hadn't mixed yet). They are just from MODERN DAY turkey. "Pure" in a sense. Nothing to do with turkish people except they lived on their land before the Selcuq moved in. Modern turkish people are both - anatolian and selcuq, but pre invasion, the anatolians were NOT turkish.