vyv_cox
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Agia Marina is also the name of the capital town on Leros. No 'marina' of any description there.
How to get an annual berth in greece in a municipial harbour?
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Irish Rover
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Yes, I was amazed the first time I went there and couldn't see a marina. The waiter in the taverna where we went for dinner was very polite in his explanation when I asked the question, but I'd imagine he had a good laugh with his colleagues in the kitchen when he told them about the stupid foreigner
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DangerousPirate
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Bet they did.Yes, I was amazed the first time I went there and couldn't see a marina. The waiter in the taverna where we went for dinner was very polite in his explanation when I asked the question, but I'd imagine he had a good laugh with his colleagues in the kitchen when he told them about the stupid foreigner
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
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Unfortunately, Saint Marina (Agia Marina) has nothing to do with Yacht Marinas. The name Marina (Marinos for males) is an old Grecoroman name related to Margaret (Margarita in Greek, the name of the well known flower in Greek ). and is a direct translation from the ancient Greek name Pelagia. Saint Marina lived in the Greek town of Antioch in Asia Minor. And, I dont think praying to her will result in any availability of a mooring in Agia Marina in Aegina.
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billskip
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In the bay at Agia Marina on Aegina, is (well maybe now was) a very big old ships anchor, big like the type that can be seen on docks, must weigh a bit , anyways, a friend who lived in Agia M went diving off my boat and came across it, I then used it as a mooring whenever I was in the bay.
Irish Rover
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Now he tells us
I guess you mean Antakya in Türkiye.
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
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Yes, Antioch in Greek and Antakya in ArabicNow he tells us
I guess you mean Antakya in Türkiye.
Irish Rover
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Actually it's spelled a little differently in Arabic, but it's in Türkiye and it's Antakya. It amuses me that some Greeks still refer to Istanbul and Izmir as Greek cities and used their ancient names. Then again, Turks use different names for many of the Islands. The two closest to me are Sakiz/Chios and Sisam/Samos.
billskip
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I'm waving to you but you have me on ignore......
Irish Rover
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You're standing on your head - or is it me?
billskip
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it's landscape and it uploaded that way, if you recognise it, it's the end of the runway ...ive stopped waving now.
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
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I suppose you mean Constantinople and the 4,000 years old Smyrna, both thrived as sea ports. It is amassing that people keep the cultural and transitional names and it is even more amazing the origins of names of places. For example, Istanbul means "towards the town" in Greek, when people used to point the direction to get to Constantinople Also, when Pytheas, the ancient mariner from the Greek city of Massalia (modern-day Marseille, France) arrived in Scotland in 600 BC must have been winter time, dark and cold and called it "Skotia" which it means the "land of darkness" and therefore "Scotland" which also proves the reliability of Astronavigation.
Irish Rover
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Ah, that's OK so, if their intention is just to preserve culture and tradition
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Irish Rover
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I assume it's Samos, but it could be Chios. I've never flown in or out of either. Do you keep a boat in the Aegean?
billskip
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Yes it's Samos.
Sadly health, a couple or three heart attacks, and hip,now replaced, caused me to sell the boat.
Risk of falling off my perch is high so have to basically live within easy reach of emergency.
Irish Rover
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I'm sorry to hear that. I had a relatively minor heart attack 13 years ago, spinal surgery x 2, prostate cancer and a hip replacement last year, but I'm still fighting the inevitable, and hoping a get a couple of more years on the boat. I like Samos, and despite the growth of tourism there, Pythagorio is still one of my favourite places.
DangerousPirate
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I am certain that's wrong. It may coincide with the greek word for darkness and sounds plausible, but scotland is most likely named after the people of Scoti who lived there. I keep hearing this greek origin all the time, but since I had to look it up so many times, I know it's just not true.
I think that's because greece wasn't a thing for 2000 years, and then suddenly they were. So they tried to revive a lot of old names in their kind just to oppose the ottomans and byzantine empires. They keep up old names to make a distinction.Ah, that's OK so, if their intention is just to preserve culture and tradition
Izmir for example is Smyrna as a reminder to the massacres there not too long ago on their people. They murdered greek and armenians.. The nobility was predominantly, what we would now call, greek until then, and there are still many families who are significantly whiter than the rest of the people living there. My ex for example, she looked very greek with blue sky blue eyes.
By the way, Izmir is actually just the Turkish corruption of Smyrna, same as Istanbul from eis tin polin (istanbul).
The history of those two countries is very interesting.
That sounds awful. Sorry to hear that your health is giving up on you now
Irish Rover
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There were massacres and atrocities on both sides, unfortunately.
But not all of Greek origin. Many are of Balkan origin, including Atatürk himself. Huge numbers of Muslims were forcibly removed or fled from the Balkans to Türkiye before the 1st world war.
Turks are fairly practical about these things.
dunedin
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History is complicated.
I think the Scoti / Scots actually came from Ireland, not what is now Scotland.
The Angles / English were Germanic, not from what is now England
The "English" kings spoke French for centuries, and some spent little if any time on what is now Britain.
And when the Saint Marina was in what is now Turkey, that was centuries before Turkey existed. Indeed it may have been in an area ruled by Hellenic / Greco / Romans (who all got rather intertwined and confused as well).
billskip
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As its thought by some, the first settlers in Ireland came from Britain I would have thought they crossed at the shortest sea route, possibly Mull to Antrim,
