Mr Googler
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I have done exactly that but into a raymarine element plotter
Bought another boat.
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Mr Googler
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Apologies for the drift Mr K
I bought one of these (you’d need 2 for twin engine)
https://amzn.eu/d/fzVYY6U
You can set the unit to either port or starboard incase you need 2. The sender wires that go to the analogue gauges go to the relevant inputs and that’s it!
Alarms are sensed to ground so again…alarm senders can be plumbed straight in.
I’m still playing with the rpm calibration but it’s just a case of altering the dip switches until it matches reality
You can’t plug it in and adjust stuff like other more expensive systems and I have no idea how you would calibrate a tank but I think some of that can be done in the plotter.
My engine is insulated returns and 24v but it seemed very happy still
My only other thought is if you have dual helm gauges…might need to change the senders to a single helm ones but they are pretty cheap.
I bought one of these (you’d need 2 for twin engine)
https://amzn.eu/d/fzVYY6U
You can set the unit to either port or starboard incase you need 2. The sender wires that go to the analogue gauges go to the relevant inputs and that’s it!
Alarms are sensed to ground so again…alarm senders can be plumbed straight in.
I’m still playing with the rpm calibration but it’s just a case of altering the dip switches until it matches reality
You can’t plug it in and adjust stuff like other more expensive systems and I have no idea how you would calibrate a tank but I think some of that can be done in the plotter.
My engine is insulated returns and 24v but it seemed very happy still
My only other thought is if you have dual helm gauges…might need to change the senders to a single helm ones but they are pretty cheap.
Greg2
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kashurst
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Bit more progress, but this is the last post for a while as I have to do other stuff. Apologies Mr G.
More wrapping of doors: Bedroom and bathroom outer doors
Galley doors on for a trial fit and to dry out properly. Not totally happy with the finish, but you get the idea. I will probably spray them in the autumn/spring.
Bedroom doors and wardrobes now wrapped too!
Still loads to do but making good progress now.
edit. We now have suitable curtains, bedding and towels but somehow a bloody cushion has turned up too! Plus the drinking water system now works and holds pressure. I found a leak. Some pillock had used a massively oversized jubilee clip on a flexible hose. So rather than clamping a reducing circle, it made a sort of oval - hence a leak.
More wrapping of doors: Bedroom and bathroom outer doors
Galley doors on for a trial fit and to dry out properly. Not totally happy with the finish, but you get the idea. I will probably spray them in the autumn/spring.
Bedroom doors and wardrobes now wrapped too!
Still loads to do but making good progress now.
edit. We now have suitable curtains, bedding and towels but somehow a bloody cushion has turned up too! Plus the drinking water system now works and holds pressure. I found a leak. Some pillock had used a massively oversized jubilee clip on a flexible hose. So rather than clamping a reducing circle, it made a sort of oval - hence a leak.
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Mr Googler
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I think that is looking awesome! Really great job
I’d do the kitchen doors dark gloss grey but that’s just me
I’d do the kitchen doors dark gloss grey but that’s just me
kashurst
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It's been a while, but I havent sold it. Today ripped out the old steps from the galley to the saloon. You can see the original step design in post #164. A bit rubbish, odd design and very difficult to carpet or wrap. So decided it had to go. Took 3 hours to get it all apart. Fairline put in loads of screws. The size 32 adjuster came into play a few times.
Everything out exposing a big storage space which was impossible to access and I can now get to the hot and cold water pipes at the back of the bathroom to connect up a proper shower. I plan on putting my inverter batteries in the space below the steps.
All rebuilt. Full width steps and they all lift out for access.
The plan at the moment is the vertical surfaces will be covered with carpet and the steps and galley floor will be covered with EVA foam decking. I used EVA foam decking on a passarelle in the med and it was still good after three years in the sunshine so it should be OK inside in the cold damp UK. Probably going to use grey with a white stripe.
Everything out exposing a big storage space which was impossible to access and I can now get to the hot and cold water pipes at the back of the bathroom to connect up a proper shower. I plan on putting my inverter batteries in the space below the steps.
All rebuilt. Full width steps and they all lift out for access.
The plan at the moment is the vertical surfaces will be covered with carpet and the steps and galley floor will be covered with EVA foam decking. I used EVA foam decking on a passarelle in the med and it was still good after three years in the sunshine so it should be OK inside in the cold damp UK. Probably going to use grey with a white stripe.
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Bouba
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On my boat those steps house the batteries....they even look like a battery boxIt's been a while, but I havent sold it. Today ripped out the old steps from the galley to the saloon. You can see the original step design in post #164. A bit rubbish, odd design and very difficult to carpet or wrap. So decided it had to go. Took 3 hours to get it all apart. Fairline put in loads of screws. The size 32 adjuster came into play a few times.
Everything out exposing a big storage space which was impossible to access and I can now get to the hot and cold water pipes at the back of the bathroom to connect up a proper shower. I plan on putting my inverter batteries in the space below the steps.
All rebuilt. Full width steps and they all lift out for access.
The plan at the moment is the vertical surfaces will be covered with carpet and the steps and galley floor will be covered with EVA foam decking. I used EVA foam decking on a passarelle in the med and it was still good after three years in the sunshine so it should be OK inside in the cold damp UK. Probably going to use grey with a white stripe.
kashurst
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Well back on board again this week. Done lots of little bits. Re wired the galley, lots of new sockets. Have door knobs, worktops, sinks, taps and shower all on order.
Ripped the bathroom to bits. Ceiling down (what a wet mess that was, there was no ventilation above the plywood panel - yuck)
MrsA has selected a suitable sofa bed for the saloon and a carpet.
Inspired by Boubas thread on waste pipe removal, today I have exposed where my sewage pipe runs. So I will have to take a brave pill and get it all out.
Fired up the Chinese diesel heater. It was working in the summer. I only had it on for a few minutes to check it was OK after installation.
It's not working now! Hmmm...
Go through the fault check list, E8 - no flame. bugger. After checking everything twice I removed the exhaust pipe and notice drips of diesel coming out. Well no surprise, it is not igniting. Hang on a minute - it looks like diesel but it doesn't smell like diesel.
It's water!!!! Must be a bit in the bottom of the separate two gallon diesel tank that is just for the heater. (boat is petrol). Fortunately there is a drain. Open the drain, a bit of water comes out, then a bit more, then even more!. Some half wit a long time ago I guess, has filled the heater tank completely full of water. I checked the fuel filler seal etc and that is all good so I am assuming operator error as the filler etc looks in good condition.
Anyway, got it all out and rigged temporarily a 5L can of diesel as a fuel source to the heater. Bled the fuel lines and pump etc through. Tried the heater again. It was a bit spluttery but after a few minutes steam stopped coming out and it ran very happily for over an hour. So it seems to have survived water injection.
I will leave the tank empty for a week so any water clinging to the sides will drain down to the bottom. Then I will drain it again before putting diesel in it. Doesnt look like there is any diesel bug present, but I will give it a dose of the good stuff just in case.
Todays job was re routing all the heater hot air tubes so the warm air comes out low down in the galley and hopefully in the bedroom.
Ripped the bathroom to bits. Ceiling down (what a wet mess that was, there was no ventilation above the plywood panel - yuck)
MrsA has selected a suitable sofa bed for the saloon and a carpet.
Inspired by Boubas thread on waste pipe removal, today I have exposed where my sewage pipe runs. So I will have to take a brave pill and get it all out.
Fired up the Chinese diesel heater. It was working in the summer. I only had it on for a few minutes to check it was OK after installation.
It's not working now! Hmmm...
Go through the fault check list, E8 - no flame. bugger. After checking everything twice I removed the exhaust pipe and notice drips of diesel coming out. Well no surprise, it is not igniting. Hang on a minute - it looks like diesel but it doesn't smell like diesel.
It's water!!!! Must be a bit in the bottom of the separate two gallon diesel tank that is just for the heater. (boat is petrol). Fortunately there is a drain. Open the drain, a bit of water comes out, then a bit more, then even more!. Some half wit a long time ago I guess, has filled the heater tank completely full of water. I checked the fuel filler seal etc and that is all good so I am assuming operator error as the filler etc looks in good condition.
Anyway, got it all out and rigged temporarily a 5L can of diesel as a fuel source to the heater. Bled the fuel lines and pump etc through. Tried the heater again. It was a bit spluttery but after a few minutes steam stopped coming out and it ran very happily for over an hour. So it seems to have survived water injection.
I will leave the tank empty for a week so any water clinging to the sides will drain down to the bottom. Then I will drain it again before putting diesel in it. Doesnt look like there is any diesel bug present, but I will give it a dose of the good stuff just in case.
Todays job was re routing all the heater hot air tubes so the warm air comes out low down in the galley and hopefully in the bedroom.
Bouba
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Undo all the bad things that boat builders do.....leave nothing hidden and inaccessible....put hinges on every panel....move the fuel tank to the flybridge
kashurst
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Yes, I have been doing that. Fortunately being an old boat a lot of the decks are wood so easy to modify.
Just ordering a couple of water resistant inspection hatches - one for the fly bridge and one to access the fuel filler via inside the cockpit.
Mr Googler
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Diesel bug needs diesel to grow so you’re fine
I’m very glad this thread is being continued. It’s dark and boring currently
I’m very glad this thread is being continued. It’s dark and boring currently
Bouba
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Just remember that hatches don’t guarantee access.....I’ve got hatches I can’t stick my head in or reach in to do anything useful
Seastoke
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There is a common denominator there.
Bouba
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What ?....big head and short arms ?
Sticky Fingers
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Great to see this progressing, keep us posted 
kashurst
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Will do, lots of stuff arriving next few weeks so it should start to look more finished. I will post a few pics as it progresses.Great to see this progressing, keep us posted
mil1194
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Diesel bug needs diesel to grow so you’re fine
I’m very glad this thread is being continued. It’s dark and boring currently
This is diesel bug - apologies in advance for defusing this thread. - I’ve had thousands of litres of bug - And some people dont believe it exists! I knew it could be a possibility so after buying the boat I made many journeys backwards and forwards with 2’ics from Viliefrache across the Med to stutter to a stop within 5miles so had to send 2nd IC Marl Lewis underneath to clean/replace. I think I went through 120 filters as my F50 was in Villefranch for 3 years without any shuddering or use. The turbos were also seized when I bought it. 3500l tanks didn’t help as I don’t think they’d even been topped up by the old boy who’d bought it and wanted to live aboard until he realised he couldn’t. Ironically the 3.5m tender had a beautiful 6hp Suzuki outboard which had annoyed him and me for the next 1 year which wouldn’t idle, run properly etc - until one day I got it back in the UK and got a tiny metal pin off a brush and cleaned a jet in 10mins and it was a brilliant little thing. We came across the channel in an F7/8 on one engine until my 2nd IC went below against my instruction and took off/cleaned/replaced the filters and got the second VMTP122D back online - I believe they were 480hp each and I definitely needed them in the boiling water we experienced, I was never happier in my life to pull into Salcombe. We’d had new radio gear fitted in North fFramce with entented antennae - about 10ft higher than the fly - which was 14.5ft higher than the waterline - and we couldnt keep contact with the coastguard.
This post prob makes no sense to others but it’s how I remember it, it took 11hours to do 110mn which was good as is stands but I I had no time for photos, videos, I didn’t ring SWMBO as I didn’t want her to worry etc.
We radioed into Salcombe to request a berth and they assumed it was for the future - not for that day. When we pulled in they had guys ready for all lines etc as they couldn’t believe we’d crossed the Chanel in an 8/9
I’ll never forget that and I’m only pleased that I had 2 others with me which were very experienced seamen as if they’d been family they’d never have stepped foot on board again. But you soon realise how sturdy your vessel is.
I may continue this later -or tell me where to post it.
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mil1194
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This is very interesting to me as we were sold a Cleopatra 850 30ft many years ago (1995?) with no history in Dale with a berth in Neyland and I’ve never seen a Cleo 850 since but that’s the nature of older stuff. Ours looked very similar to yours and ran VP twin petrols that we were able to re-sussertate but the legs were always dodgy and stiff to steer. We ran ours fior a few years from Neyland and then took her away for a full refit which never happened and I suspect went to an ex BIL for a few hundred quid which hurt - especially as I’d put tri axel units on the 30ft trailer and had it welded up etc. but it is what it is.
The guy that ‘sold’ it to us wanted £9K and we knew nothing about boats alouth the broker wanted me to pay £8k for the fastest bot in the marina. It was the fastest but would have needed one day a year and not taken anyone Eleri- thanks Mike!
Bouba
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Great story.....if you do get kicked off this thread....then you should definitely start one. Although you can buy fuel bug treatment in France (and I use it at every refuel), many people here think it’s not a local problem....an English disease if you will...but there are a few who I’ve spoken to who know it to be real
mil1194
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Well I have the proof - and also living in Welsh west wales I’ve seen it in agricultural equipment as well. Especially lateh forage harvesters that are only used for 6weeks a year etc. they don’t start. You pull off a pipe or two and the contents are pure jelly
