“SETAG’ing” on the cheap

[Mileholm]

A friend of mine has a Fairline Carrera 24 which is in good mechanical order and has no hull issues. However, it looks like an antique/original on the inside. It is functional and there’s nothing physically wrong with the galley or headlining - it just looks absolutely ancient.

At the risk of upsetting traditionalists, does anyone here have experience of succeeding with a total interior surface treatment on the cheap that modernises the look? Similar to all the examples on YouTube from the likes of SETAG, but spending £5-10k on a 1989, 27ft, £15k boat rather than £40-50k on a 2005, 45ft, £200k one?

Clearly the finish will be with lower quality materials, but vinyl wrap products like 3M di-noc seems to go on really quick and the finish appear similar to what you’d get on a brand new sub-£100k Salpa 23XL which Aquaholic uploaded a review of a couple of days ago. I appreciate the end-product might look a bit like an IKEA laminate kitchen, but at least it’ll be fresh and new.

Any experience, thoughts and/or pics anyone would care to share?

 

[Seastoke]

A friend of mine has a Fairline Carrera 24 which is in good mechanical order and has no hull issues. However, it looks like an antique/original on the inside. It is functional and there’s nothing physically wrong with the galley or headlining - it just looks absolutely ancient.

At the risk of upsetting traditionalists, does anyone here have experience of succeeding with a total interior surface treatment on the cheap that modernises the look? Similar to all the examples on YouTube from the likes of SETAG, but spending £5-10k on a 1989, 27ft, £15k boat rather than £40-50k on a 2005, 45ft, £200k one?

Clearly the finish will be with lower quality materials, but vinyl wrap products like 3M di-noc seems to go on really quick and the finish appear similar to what you’d get on a brand new sub-£100k Salpa 23XL which Aquaholic uploaded a review of a couple of days ago. I appreciate the end-product might look a bit like an IKEA laminate kitchen, but at least it’ll be fresh and new.

Any experience, thoughts and/or pics anyone would care to share?

Have a look at a thread by mr Google , he is king of the wrap.

 

[stelican]

Have a look at a thread by mr Google , he is king of the wrap.

My favourite rapper

 

[Sticky Fingers]

My favourite rapper

Wrapper surely

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Labour and materials costs are the same regardless of the value of the donor boat. So to get a quality job will cost quality money.

 

[Mr Googler]

Yo Yo

Have search through my threads. I’ve done long (too long some would say) posts on 4 boats that I did up I the exact way you are looking at

Love a bit of wrap….and vinyl dye too! All original upholstery…just colour changed

 

[Mileholm]

Have a look at a thread by mr Google , he is king of the wrap.

Sorry, I hadn't, but thank you.

Yo Yo

Have search through my threads. I’ve done long (too long some would say) posts on 4 boats that I did up I the exact way you are looking at

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Oh, this is brilliant. Will have a look through your old threads. Do you recall names of any with good examples?

 

[kashurst]

have a look at this stuff DC-fix. Mr G put me onto it. It's very good, very easy to use and a great price.

90cm Wide Rolls

and these guys - simple cushions and covers:

https://www.coversandall.co.uk/cush...or-cushion-covers/window-seat-cushion-cover-p

 

[Mr Googler]

New Project

New boat!

 

[Mr Googler]

Couple of threads there to keep you going

 

[Seastoke]

So 100% read all Mr Google’s threads , then you will know if you do it the same you will know ,you have done it wrong.

 

[Mr Googler]

So 100% read all Mr Google’s threads , then you will know if you do it the same you will know ,you have done it wrong.

I’ve never bought a sinkline so I can only have ever got it right

 

[Mileholm]

have a look at this stuff DC-fix. Mr G put me onto it. It's very good, very easy to use and a great price.

90cm Wide Rolls

and these guys - simple cushions and covers:

Window Seat Cushion Cover

Great stuff!

New Project

New boat!

That’s my bedtime reading sorted

 

[Mr Googler]

Makes me tired remembering the work!

 

[bowler]

 

[Mileholm]

Yea - seen that before and it is an interesting approach and clearly a lot of effort. Looks like he’s almost reimagined the original design. However, it doesn’t feel like the luxury interior design achieved by the likes of SETAG, which is understandable as he’s presumably worked with much cheaper materials.

 

[kashurst]

Yea - seen that before and it is an interesting approach and clearly a lot of effort. Looks like he’s almost reimagined the original design. However, it doesn’t feel like the luxury interior design achieved by the likes of SETAG, which is understandable as he’s presumably worked with much cheaper materials.

It is possible to acheive the sorts of finishes that SETAG get as a DIYer. If you access to 3D cad, CNC milling machines, prepared to spend a lot on higher quality materials, a proper spray booth and are a wizz with a tig welder to do all your own stainless steel bits. But there comes a point when an older boat is only worth so much regardless of how high quality the rebuilt interior quality is. Ultimately you can't really change the layout or exterior appearance very much. You could buy an older boat for say £50K, spend £50K on materials (easy!) but you won't get that back in the future sales price. Someone looking to spend £100K on a boat can buy a much better, more modern boat for that money, and just buy some new curtains and a posh GPS plotter.

I am doing a bit of a refurb at the moment. I spent £19K on the boat, that was one step away from the crusher and will probably spend £7K on "value for money" materials and parts doing it up. It is now all mostly new inside and smells like a new boat too. (glue, fresh fibreglass and recently sawn hard woods)
But it's a 40 year old boat with all the major design choices and engines of that period. However I am only doing it for my own entertainment. So when I am done with it I will probably get most of my money back. Probably......

A few years back I think MBY covered the DIY build of a bare hull. 44 footer, twin engined flybridge. The self builder owned a furniture manufacturing business with everything to be able to do stuff at a professional level. He did a fantastic job, brand new engines etc etc.. Spent about £400K spared no expense. It looked very like the then current Fairlines. Back then £400k wouldn't have paid for a brand new Fairline, but it would have covered a three year old one.
However good the finish it's still a "home build" not a Sunseeker/Princess/Fairline with that original build quality.

 

[Mr Googler]

It is possible to acheive the sorts of finishes that SETAG get as a DIYer. If you access to 3D cad, CNC milling machines, prepared to spend a lot on higher quality materials, a proper spray booth and are a wizz with a tig welder to do all your own stainless steel bits. But there comes a point when an older boat is only worth so much regardless of how high quality the rebuilt interior quality is. Ultimately you can't really change the layout or exterior appearance very much. You could buy an older boat for say £50K, spend £50K on materials (easy!) but you won't get that back in the future sales price. Someone looking to spend £100K on a boat can buy a much better, more modern boat for that money, and just buy some new curtains and a posh GPS plotter.

I am doing a bit of a refurb at the moment. I spent £19K on the boat, that was one step away from the crusher and will probably spend £7K on "value for money" materials and parts doing it up. It is now all mostly new inside and smells like a new boat too. (glue, fresh fibreglass and recently sawn hard woods)
But it's a 40 year old boat with all the major design choices and engines of that period. However I am only doing it for my own entertainment. So when I am done with it I will probably get most of my money back. Probably......

A few years back I think MBY covered the DIY build of a bare hull. 44 footer, twin engined flybridge. The self builder owned a furniture manufacturing business with everything to be able to do stuff at a professional level. He did a fantastic job, brand new engines etc etc.. Spent about £400K spared no expense. It looked very like the then current Fairlines. Back then £400k wouldn't have paid for a brand new Fairline, but it would have covered a three year old one.
However good the finish it's still a "home build" not a Sunseeker/Princess/Fairline with that original build quality.

We need updates on your Mr K!

 

[roa312]

A friend of mine has a Fairline Carrera 24 which is in good mechanical order and has no hull issues. However, it looks like an antique/original on the inside. It is functional and there’s nothing physically wrong with the galley or headlining - it just looks absolutely ancient.

At the risk of upsetting traditionalists, does anyone here have experience of succeeding with a total interior surface treatment on the cheap that modernises the look? Similar to all the examples on YouTube from the likes of SETAG, but spending £5-10k on a 1989, 27ft, £15k boat rather than £40-50k on a 2005, 45ft, £200k one?

Clearly the finish will be with lower quality materials, but vinyl wrap products like 3M di-noc seems to go on really quick and the finish appear similar to what you’d get on a brand new sub-£100k Salpa 23XL which Aquaholic uploaded a review of a couple of days ago. I appreciate the end-product might look a bit like an IKEA laminate kitchen, but at least it’ll be fresh and new.

Any experience, thoughts and/or pics anyone would care to share?

I'm sure you are already aware, but I thought I’d mention that there are several DIY boat rebuild channels that could guide you. One channel I’ve been following for years is Sail Life, run by a fellow Dane and his wife. He first renovated a 38ft sailboat from scratch and has recently started work on a 44ft hurricane-damaged catamaran. His projects are truly comprehensive, with videos detailing everything from fiberglass work to cabinetry, flooring, headlining, and ship systems—absolutely everything.

 

[Mileholm]

I'm sure you are already aware, but I thought I’d mention that there are several DIY boat rebuild channels that could guide you. One channel I’ve been following for years is Sail Life, run by a fellow Dane and his wife. He first renovated a 38ft sailboat from scratch and has recently started work on a 44ft hurricane-damaged catamaran. His projects are truly comprehensive, with videos detailing everything from fiberglass work to cabinetry, flooring, headlining, and ship systems—absolutely everything.

Thanks - yes I appreciate there is lots of good rebuild stuff out there.

What I am specifically thinking of is taking a sound £15k, 25ft’ish boat from the 1990s and trying to get the look of a new boat like the Salpa in the video below, by sticking in flexi-teak, making contemporary coloured vinyl cushions for outside and in, wrapping a few things inside and out, etc.

I am possibly being a little ambitious with a £10k budget, but if the hull, engine, electrics and hood are good, it strikes me that the rest is fairly superficial - i.e. covering surfaces you see and touch.