And with all due respect to your experience, a blue water boat can be different to yours. Theres not one type only. Personally I wouldnt get out of bed for any monohull, though I’m not about to try and foist my views on the OP. Designers and builders have largely moved on too. New arrivals in the bluewater sailing scene have different tastes, thats all.
Who would you describe as building bluewater boats? Certainly the latest production boats aren't. A handful of French builders are building in aluminium, often lifting keel. There are several here in Ponta Delgada. Bluewater boats will always be limited in numbers. Few people want to pay to have one built. They are expensive. The Mike Pocock designs look good but you could buy a modern production boat of the same length for half the cost.
My choice would certainly not be Nautitech. Probably Dazcat, the cost would be immaterial if we were selling up to sail. And you’re agreeing with me in that nobody is production building your traditional bluewater boats. Anything can cross an ocean if it’s big enough to carry the supplies. It’s now down to whatever you like to live on and whatever you like to sail. And applying suitable seamanship skills to your chosen boat.
What's a production boat, is a Hylas / Outbound a blue water boat I and many would say it is yet it's in production and several are / have been made each year. The same could be said for many yachts particularly older ones designed by the likes of Perry, Crealock et al.
I know a guy- professional sailor who came very close to putting together a Vendée campaign- who chose a Nautitech when he went sailing with his family. Did a half circumnavigation and sold the boat in Australia.
Yawn. There are modern boats that are good for blue water sailing, including some mentioned here. As we have ascertained, you have no personal experience of sailing oceans in any modern boat of the types suggested.
I'll tell Biffa that you'll be putting your order in then ;-)
We are known to the crew down there
If he’d take a house in Freshwater Bay in exchange….
Where is the soft buoyancy in a plumb bow,even the Vikings knew that……..
There is none
I remember a Patrick Laine video where he crossed the Atlantic in his Bongo(?) and had to pause every so often to clear weed of his twin rudders.
But that is just perhaps your older preferences. Wide sterns and twin rudders are VERY well proven as suitable for blue water, and indeed Roaring Forties - provided well engineered. Broach less and smoother downwind in big waves, which trade wind sailing tends to be.
That's the point about modern designs with broad transoms that they need to be sailed and attended too, with so much buoyancy in the stern of those with a broad transom the danger is with big following and quartering seas that the stern is picked up and they go nose down with the fine entry of the plumb bow not giving a lot of resistance? that requires a lot of work on the helm to control the boat and prevent broaching, not what you want on a long term cruising boat.
Actually it is probably the exact opposite. Easier to sail downwind, less rolling and rudders grip better. Bows nowadays getting wider above the waterline also.
Talk to him nicely and he might even sell Hissy to you.We are known to the crew down there
Well I don't know as Ive never sailed a fat arse boat in a big following sea, sailed several narrow stern and canoe stern boats in those conditions when either a good wind vane or powerful autopilot kept the boat on track. From all I've read though it seems that the extra buoyancy does lead to less course stability with a tendency to broach if not continually corrected. Auto pilots often fail and are often underpowered, the only ones I have real faith in are those motors installed in solid linkage systems like Jeffa and the old Whitlock now Lewmar.
