What does “tiller hard over to starboard” mean to you?

[Refueler]

Having subscribed to this, and other, forums it doesn't amaze me!

It all pales when compared to Bar stool chat !!!

Anchors ?
ColRegs ?
Racing Rules !!
.......

 

[010169]

…I find it confusing. Someone on another thread uses the phrase. Does it mean steer hard to starboard, or does it mean push tiller hard over to starboard (and thus steer boat to port?

It is literal in my opinion. Tiller moved to stbd. Not rudder. That is why boat equipment is given names I would have thought. Seems pretty simple and obvious.
Steer to stbd is different from tiller to stbd.

 

[Daydream believer]

As to the OP's question, it was perfectly clear. For example, "helm's alee" mean we are tacking." turning into the wind).

I have never heard that phrase, or used it. My one would be:-
"Ready about--Lea Ho" Or, "Gybing--Gybe Ho". as the case may be.

 

[Refueler]

I have never heard that phrase, or used it. My one would be:-
"Ready about--Lea Ho" Or, "Gybing--Gybe Ho". as the case may be.

I have a thought of "Swallows and Amazons' coming on !!

 

[Poignard]

As to the OP's question, it was perfectly clear. For example, "helm's alee" mean we are tacking." turning into the wind).

But I would just say "turn right" if that is what I mean. Or head up/bare off when that is more to the point.

It was perfectly clear that the OP's question did not mention tacking.

If it had done, then putting the tiller over hard would be a wrong thing to do, since it would act as a brake.

The only occasion I would ever have the tiller anywhere near hard over would be if, when manouvering under power, I wanted to kick the stern to one side or the other with minimal movement ahead.

Otherwise the tiller would not be moved more than ca 35degree either side of centre.

 

[14K478]

My late father’s sailing career ran from 1919 to 1983 and his example of “The worst sailing term to shout at a beginner” was:

“Let fly the lee runner!”

“fly”? “lee”? “runner”?

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Years ago someone here (Kukri} was reminiscing about sailing with his father who, instead of issuing peremptory orders, would say :..

"We might improve the shining hour by putting a tack in, when you have a moment!"

I would have enjoyed sailing with someone like that.

The chap who introduced me to XOD sailing was like that, when he wasn’t in the lead. The further back we were, the more polite and poetical his language. ‘I say old boy, do you think you’d be so kind as to put the kite up’ as we rounded the windward mark in 2nd from last.

 

[Refueler]

It was perfectly clear that the OP's question did not mention tacking.

If it had done, then putting the tiller over hard would be a wrong thing to do, since it would act as a brake.

The only occasion I would ever have the tiller hard over would be if I wanted to kick the stern to one side or the other with minimal movement ahead.

Otherwise the tiller would not be moved more than ca 35degree either side of centre.

That all depends on the boat .... my C38 - I agree with you ... but tiller would be increased as the turn gathers ...

My SR25 - you need to get that tiller over full as she's heavy and best is backing the genny as well ...

 

[LittleSister]

'It might be nice, don't you think No. 1, to have the sunshine on the other side of the deck at this stage in the proceedings?'

 

[Chiara’s slave]

That all depends on the boat .... my C38 - I agree with you ... but tiller would be increased as the turn gathers ...

My SR25 - you need to get that tiller over full as she's heavy and best is backing the genny as well ...

Indeed. As Poignard sails a Twister, I thought, his hem is quite sensitive. Both my boats require very little helm movement unless mooring.

 

[LittleSister]

'I was wondering about making a cup of tea once we're on the next tack.'

 

[Graham_Wright]

Push this rope.

 

[Poignard]

[..]... his hem is quite sensitive. [...]

It has been suggested that I do sometimes reveal too much knobbly knee

 

[Chiara’s slave]

It has been suggested that I do sometimes reveal too much knobbly knee

You’re a saucy one.

 

[fisherman]

We were groping through the fog, crew peering into the murk up for'd ambled back, stuck his head in the door and whispered:
"Land ho"

 

[Daydream believer]

This thread reminds me of some control stickers that one could buy for a while. Normally spinlock clutches etc had "Mainsail Halyard" Jib Halyard" Vang" etc.
However, this batch had
Up f,,er. Down f,,er. This f..er. That f..r The right f..er Other f..er Etc Etc
Obviously I have abreviated part of the description to avoid embarrassing Shan & Wansy
Have not seen them lately.

 

[Refueler]

We were groping through the fog, crew peering into the murk up for'd ambled back, stuck his head in the door and whispered:
"Land ho"

Proceeding in fog into Placentia Bay Canada ... 20,000 ton tanker ... Pilot, Master and C/off on bridge .. me and AB on focsle peering into the fog trying to make out buoys etc.
I get call on Walkie Talkie ...
3/O - should be channel marker just ahead ...

OK - says I ..

AB and I are staring into the fog ..

Can't see it Bridge ..

BONK BONK BONK ..as it bonked its way down the stbd side !!

Age old mistake - looking ahead instead of down !!

 

[thinwater]

Bare off??

Yup, that relates to a different sort of action.

Bear off.

[Glad my foibles inject some humor]

 

[chris-s]

A bit late to this thread, but if the admiral is on the tiller, I tend to use phrases along the lines of ‘pull the tiller’ or ‘push it away’. Little room for confusion.
This comes from years teaching people to fly model aircraft where I would stand beside them and tell to move the aileron stick towards me or away from me. Quicker and easier for the brain to interpret without having to think about left or right, particularly when the model could be flying straight toward us and right/left can be reversed!

 

[Chiara’s slave]

This thread reminds me of some control stickers that one could buy for a while. Normally spinlock clutches etc had "Mainsail Halyard" Jib Halyard" Vang" etc.
However, this batch had
Up f,,er. Down f,,er. This f..er. That f..r The right f..er Other f..er Etc Etc
Obviously I have abreviated part of the description to avoid embarrassing Shan & Wansy
Have not seen them lately.

In the XOD fleet, the downwind trick is to pull the rig forward, the shrouds are slack at rest, so this essentially is a line to shorten the forestay. That line is of course labelled fwd. f****. Going round the windward mark often results in er, colourful language commands. In light winds you can hear it all around, if you’ve got bogged down in the pack.