Shouting

[Mike_02]

Why do some skippers feel the need to SHOUT at crew....the sign of a bad skipper is a raised voice......!!!!

I really do dispear when i see a skipper at the helm shouting at some poor crew on the bow that does not understand what is required of them....!!!

And what really gets me going..is seeing boats moving in marinas with LOUD skippers. I have spent many a day in St Peter Port watching boats arrive and leave...i feel nothing but shame and embarrasment when i often hear a raised voice and running of feet and dropping of ropes....!!!

I have owned my own boat for a few years now and while i am no saint in a marina i can honestly say i have never hit anything or ever come close to it...

I have seen fantastic displays of skill in marinas but i must say the bad does out way the good......

what do you all say....i say it's all down to a skippers ability to communicate with their crew...and nothing else.....!!!

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[Peppermint]

Re: Shouting has its place

The trouble is most people squander it as you say, because they've not bothered teaching the crew what to do.

That being said I like you am constantly entertained by marina boat handling. It's good that they shout so we know their coming.

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[Roberto]

I feel a strong need to shout and make unusual noises, being italian it must have something to do with national identity, being recognizable (I don't wear black sunglasses, flashy tshirts nor have gelled hair), sonorous imprinting over the surrounding space, etc.

It never happens during mooring though, just when finished berthing, after discovering the usual major catastrophe: someone forgot pasta in boiling water for 30 seconds longer than the *right* time

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[Gunfleet]

I like my crew to shout at me because I can't hear a blooming word they say on the foredeck. Sometimes people are a bit shy about doing it, but facing forwards and mumbling just doesn't work. THey have to face me and raise their voices above the level of the engine!

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[Mike_02]

I find that trying to comunicate to the crew on the bow is often hard but again if you plan and practice you can use hand signals or other such ways to comunicate.
When i am picking up a mooring boy my crew and i do it silence and we usually get it right.

And i feel that if the weather is too bad to comunicate with the crew on the boy..what are you doing sending crew to the bow if they don't know exactly what they are doing...????


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[sailbadthesinner]

i think there are times when things go wrong and the skipper may need to shout to be heard

what IS DEFINITELY WRONG is everyone shouting. that is just bloody chaos.

oh and if the beer is warm
i shout then.

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[Cornishman]

Oh! No, not another one from down under where the beer is so awful it has to be darn near frozen before it's drinkable. Beer's meant to be at room temperature and lager's meant to be poured down the drain.

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[Gunfleet]

Hi Mike, I think you misread what I wrote. I never mentioned heavy weather and you didn't to start with. I also didn't say the crew *had* to say anything. But if they do say anything I want them to face me and raise their voices so I can hear them above the motor. I love the idea of you stealing into the marina wig wagging hand signals to each other and you're right, crew that know each other (like my son and I) don't say much to each other at all. But if they're got something to say I'd rather hear it. All clear now?

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[sailbadthesinner]

sorry i drink guinness
which i like cool
on a hot day i will drink lager
if your buyingi will have whatever i am given
if i am really drunk
i drink diamond white and redbull


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[Chris_Robb]

John - I have an even greater problem in hearing the crew - I have a covered doghouse so can't hear a bloody thing. Normally there is no communications with the crew, they just get on with a normal manouver. Its when something goes wrong, and you can't hear them!

So - this year I bought a couple of hand held walki talkies - as tested in one of the yachting mags - £35.00 a pair - so hope to solve a problem - until it goes overboard in the pannick!

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[Rowana]

Lager

If you are to be pouring lager down the drain, can I filter it through my kidneys first, please ??

Jim

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[Cornishman]

Re: Lager

O, Ye of little taste !

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[sailbadthesinner]

Re: Lager

in a restaraunt in majorca, Cala d'or , september
asked for Pimms
was told by very polite german waiter
sir that is a 70s drink noone has that anymore.

he then proceeded to make a crepe suzette in the centre of the restaraunt
so i ordered campari instead.


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[Heckler]

when i was there

i saw victoria bitter and thought oh ill try that, the only likenes to our bitter was the colour, it tasted of nothing when it was cold and still tasted of nothing when it was not so cold!!
and that went for all the "bitters" i tasted.
now the wines were something else
stu

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[jimi]

You obviously sail with the family. I've this problem too. They just ignore whatever you say so there's no point. If you try and point out the error of their ways you're a domineering bastid, if you do'nt your an uncommunicative sod .. so I just give up and work around what little foolishnesses they're up to. It does make for a happier homelife do'nt you think?



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[Cornishman]

Do you think it is "much like the homelife of our dear Queen?"

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[qsiv]

Re: Lager

Once tried to order a Kir at a pub in Lymington. The exquisitely naive girl behind the bar asked her even dimmer assistant, and together they searched every bottle behind the bar, before coming back- "Awfully sorry we seem to have run out" she said.

Ok I said, could I have a glass of Muscadet with a drop of Cassis in it please?

Certainly sir, she replies....

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[davidhand]

I am often amazed to see a boat in a anchourage with the guy at the wheel and his eight stone wife on the bow trying to handle a 15kg (or more) anchour. I long ago took a couple of hours to teach SWMBO to manouvre the boat around in an ancourage and a marina. Now when we anchour she takes the helm I do the heavy stuff, we communicate with hand signals and everything is fine.

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[polarity]

There's a lot to be said for singlehanding...


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