Sailing schools and smoking

[doris]

Wow Wow brilliant you, you must have very little to do when you have to have a go at smokers.
Are you one of those types who would like to see smokers bannished to the leper colony and class us as dirty smelly folk.
We gave up smoking in pubs to save your lungs and although I personnaly dont smoke or allow smoking inside the confines of my boat compartments, I do smoke and allow smoking in the cockpit and will continue to do so, as for training boats if you dont like someone smoking on outer decks etc, just move away from them as opposed to causing a scene about, the rules of the whole world cannot just be changed for you.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I am going for a fag, (outside my back door.
C smokey W

Actually I simply dislike the smell of smoke and smokers. therefore on my boat there is no smoking. Smokers smell like old billies, if you are happy with that fine. I prefer not to put up with it. My choice. I have very few smoking friends or colleagues so the question rarely arises but I am surprised that businesses, such as sailing schools, can afford to lose non-smoking business. That is after all the majority, or at least it is down south!

Have to say I am surprised at some of vitriolic posts. Thought that the world had moved on from that over the weed. Then again I remember the old advert. Kissing a smoker, a bit like sticking one's tongue in an ashtray! Gosh, eroticism!!

 

[alant]

Apology!

I didn't say I was intelligent; I only said smokers are stupid [to smoke].

I know some very intelligent smokers, and some very stupid non-smokers.

I'm not a smoker, nor am I pro-smoking; I'm only against hysterical extremists.

If you actually thought about it, you'd realise that I'm only upwind of the power station in the prevailing westerlies. When the wind is in the east I obviously worry myself sick and won't let my pets out of doors just in case....

The point about my gran dying after 60 years of chain smoking was simply to illustrate that the presence of smelly old cigarette smoke on someone's clothing is as likely to kill you as someone in Hove Actually being hit with a cricket ball bowled in Karachi. I'm sure some scientista has done important research to prove that I'm wrong, but I won't lose a minute's sleep over the fact.

[Doesn't roll eyes like a schoolgirl]

"I didn't say I was intelligent"

My sincere apology for thinking you were intelligent!


"I know some very intelligent smokers,"

An obvious oxymoron!


"my gran dying after 60 years of chain smoking was simply to illustrate that the presence of smelly old cigarette smoke on someone's clothing is as likely to kill you as someone in Hove Actually being hit with a cricket ball bowled in Karachi. I'm sure some scientista has done important research to prove that I'm wrong, but I won't lose a minute's sleep over the fact."

Some facts to lose sleep over -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...tte-fumes.html

http://www.helium.com/items/1515405-...es-lung-cancer

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0112132138.htm

 

[Resolution]

Have to say I am surprised at some of vitriolic posts. Thought that the world had moved on from that over the weed.!

Why the surprise? Smoking is an addiction............















so, for most of us is sailing.

 

[snooks]

I live upwind of a coal-powered generating station,

Cor, a place where the wind always blows from the same direction??

Surely you must also live downwind from a coal-powered power station too?

 

[GazzaUK]

(Shakes head in despair at some of the people on this thread.....the non-smokers, that is!)

 

[Phideaux]

I generally smoke between 5-8 a day. I do enjoy a cigarette on overnight channel crossings when I'm alone at the helm and I always ask the skipper if on-deck downwind smoking is permissable. If the answer is "not, or I'd rather not", then fair enough because I also keep a supply of nicotine patches and/or NiQuitin mini lozenges (the latter work really well). I now also carry a small old tobacco tin to put butts into so as not to dispose of them over the side.

 

[pteron]

I helped sail Mojomo from Les Sables D'Olonne to Lanzarote a few years ago. tcm and sailbad were both smokers and brought a carton of fags each on board. I'm a non smoker and to their credit they attempted to smoke downwind of me in Mojomo's ample cockpit.

Yet, by the time we reached Lanzarote, I had a real smokers cough. Now I'm probably a bit sensitive to smoke, but I was surprised.

 

[Baggywrinkle]

So ... you're gonna die at some point, the question is when? and from what?

It's all a numbers game played on probability and dodgy politically charged statistics.

There is no 'secret recipe' for a long happy life other than eat well, sleep well, exercise, avoid stress and don't go free climbing or base jumping on a regular basis.

Things like drinking or smoking just shift the odds a bit and maybe the Grim Reaper will call earlier than planned.

Has anyone noticed that the stale smoke smell that used to characterise night clubs and pubs has turned into a stale alcohol smell since the smoking ban? - which is arguably more unpleasant.

 

[Phideaux]

Has anyone noticed that the stale smoke smell that used to characterise night clubs and pubs has turned into a stale alcohol smell since the smoking ban? - which is arguably more unpleasant.

Both help hide the smell of vomit and, for the less salubrious areas of town, blood.

 

[Baggywrinkle]

Both help hide the smell of vomit and, for the less salubrious areas of town, blood.

Can't say I've ever noticed the blood ... but then I don't think my olfactory system is quite as good as yours - that is if you look anything like your avatar.

 

[VO5]

(Shakes head in despair at some of the people on this thread.....the non-smokers, that is!)

Yes, exactly, me too.

 

[theoldplucker]

I find that before and after the somoking ban, my clothes still stink of food after a visit to a pub or resataurant. Perhaps they should ban cooking of food in such establishments.
I presume some of the non smkers here never ever motor down wind, or follow otther cars on the road, or walk in the street where there are vehicles.

 

[Bosun Higgs]

We are completely non-smoking on board, as are most boats I know. Is this not the norm these days?

No. It's very much a social class thing. From observation at our club which is a mixed yottie / mobo outfit, most middle class yottie types are no smoking but a much higher proportion of mobo drivers smoke, particularly the mainly blue collar drivers of the small Shetland type fishing boats.

As a slightly militant ex smoker, no one smokes on my boat. But then none of my friends or family smoke anyway. Correction - one friend occasionally does the hamlet things.

You see the same sort of social division albeit less marked when it comes to diet and weight.

 

[doris]

I presume some of the non smkers here never ever motor down wind.

Oi! I thought this was a sailing forum. Why would you motor when there is wind. If motoring the apparant is always in front!

 

[doris]

No. It's very much a social class thing. From observation at our club which is a mixed yottie / mobo outfit, most middle class yottie types are no smoking but a much higher proportion of mobo drivers smoke, particularly the mainly blue collar drivers of the small Shetland type fishing boats.

As a slightly militant ex smoker, no one smokes on my boat. But then none of my friends or family smoke anyway. Correction - one friend occasionally does the hamlet things.

You see the same sort of social division albeit less marked when it comes to diet and weight.

Excellent post bosun. Worthy of the finest Daily Mail reader of Tunbridge Wells. That might get the oiks' tails up. Tally Ho!

 

[alant]

Oi! I thought this was a sailing forum. Why would you motor when there is wind. If motoring the apparant is always in front!

Why would you motor downwind in a sailing boat?

 

[iain789]

Wow Wow brilliant you, you must have very little to do when you have to have a go at smokers.
Are you one of those types who would like to see smokers bannished to the leper colony and class us as dirty smelly folk.
C smokey W

Not a bad idea come to think of it.

It amazes me the number of people who are happy to announce to the world that they are drug addicts. Would they be just so happy to announce that they were addicted to another recreational drug like heroin or crack cocaine?

 

[prv]

Would they be just so happy to announce that they were addicted to another recreational drug like heroin or crack cocaine?

The drug takers of my acquaintance aren't particularly shy about it, so yes, probably.

The rudeness of some of the anti-smokers here is really surprising!

Pete
(Non-smoker)

 

[Fantasie 19]

Excellent post bosun. Worthy of the finest Daily Mail reader of Tunbridge Wells. That might get the oiks' tails up. Tally Ho!

 

[andymcp]

Flippin eck, it's all a bit heated in here. Why don't some people just sit back and have a fag?

If you're ever lost overboard and a passing yacht comes to rescue you, I can see that soon there will be a standard list of questions requiring acceptable responses before a recovery is attempted:

i) Do you smoke?
ii) Which anchor did you have on your recently abandoned vessel?
iii) Two yachts are approaching a third stationary vessel not displaying an anchor ball on opposing tacks with one using the assistance of engine power. Who does the colregs identify as stand-on?
iv) Are you a mobo owner?