med and bread report

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I have just returned from inaugural med trip of the season. In antibes, the start of the season is hearldedby a large antiques fair which simulates summer crush by being held in all the car parks.

The boat was filthy, as antibes is between cannes (full of cars) and nice (ful of cars) and under the flight path to nice airport. So anyway, i experimented with my latest idea which was to clean the boat with petrol. You dip a sweeping brush in a shallow bucket of petrol, then wham over the deck, then a big squirt of washing up liquid to emulsify and wash it off, doing it in sqauers of bout a mtere at a time. This method has no guarantee and is unprintable, but did result in a clean boat v quick, and nothing disolved this time, unlike my previous daft idea using acetone in the bathroom which burned through the varnish when i dropped a bit, or bleach on the seats, which resulted in all my shorts having bleached lines innem and me selling the boat shortly afterwards.

Petrol is much cheaper than lots of suscpiciously similar products which are flammable and sold in tins at 10 quid a litre. However, Learner, who helped as he was boatless but anxious to find out about boat cleaning (well, he actually came over for a beer) said his bare feet were stinging a lot, and then emma the crewperson said her feet were also falling apart a bit the next week ahem. Oh, also if you use the yellow brushes with fluffy ends, the following days they have set into a solid mush, therby costing another 40 quid for a new brush head, and you get quite an adrenalin rush as you inspect the boat for signs of the foredeck dissolving like an empty pot noodle container does if you use it to wash brushes with white spirit. The blue bristled brushes are okay. You can't use petrol on the teak of course, that would be really stupid.

Got it all cleaned, then it chucked it down for two days solid, so wife turned up to boat with freshly soggy cushions, damnit. On a nice day we went to st tropez, which is sort-of a fixed-up Mouslehole without tides and with more sun and better food. I had a look round Leaners potential boat number n+1 in golfe juan which was v nice, so he made a laughable offer on it, so somebody else bought it. JFM was somewhere around in the second week, but he hid in an hotel whilst it chucked it down again for a day or so.

A few days later, another friend was taking delivery of a predator 56 which was very lairy in yellow and dead cheap 2nd hand. Time for a seatrial, so lets go now. We passed our boat tied to the fuel pontoon. Son #1 aged 14 called over to suggest that he take our boat out into the bay just half a mile, on his own, windless sunny day and hardly anyboats out , which erm i sed yes cripes er okay then so and cook/crew person on deck set off in blimmin 75 foot boat and they anchored out whilst i watched all worried from this predator doing 35-40 knots in the same bay and swmbo saying i was utterly raving mad and what abgout the insurance hmm? But no probs, and he was full of it, so later I had to show him how to berth the thing. Mind you, i now get to lounge on the foredeck and generally direct operations instead of sitting in the pilot seat which is fortunately jammed at highest setting, and the only single fault on the entire boat, apart from the horn not working.

Bread? Ah yes, well, Deleted User is also down there now, in nice new boat in nice new (to him)La Napoule marina. But it was 8 am when i went round, he wasn't around, so i gottim some bread and croissants at the shop, and chucked it on board in a nice bag as a sortof useful hello. I had to rush off, so i thought i would ring at nearer nineish to say hi, i brought you some bread. But I couldn't find his number. So I dunno if he found the bread, or if he thought a dog had abandoned it, or if another dog nicked it, or if he foiund it but thought hmm must be somebody else's, or what. Not sure if I would eat new bread found in a bag in the cockpit one morning: I would probably not eat it all, as it would taste of petrol, or acetone, or bleach. He will probably be complaining round at the harbour office termorrer to say oi where's the flippin free bread delivery like yesterday?

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Ah- the esteemed tcm - let me be the first to welcome you back. It's been pretty quite hereabouts and we need some of your usual drivel to liven things up.

I'll study the latest outpouring from the cesspit you call a mind and comment later - much later.



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So it was you! Why didnt you knock? You might have got a volley of abuse from a comatose SWMBO but you would have got a cup of lukewarm coffee with half soured milk from me.
Actually, we sent extremely reluctant small person around every boat on the quay to ask in his best franglais whether they had ordered a couple of baguettes. Needless to say he was given very short shrift by assorted froggies and we ended up scoffing the lot, inside rather than outside just in case we were spotted by les flics

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Re:assorted froggies

oh they are all nice and french around there. Mr Lebrun will be getting a lump of finest b+q carpet and sticking it to the quayside.

What's that thing that looks like a winch near your aft garage on port side? is that for winding in the dinghy? or a special device for smashing your toes on? or both?

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Toe stubber

It took me a while to suss the winch as well but in fact its primary purpose, as demonstrated by SWMBO, does indeed seem to be as a convenient obstacle on which to stub one's big toe, throw a strop, refuse to handle any lines or fenders and demand that boat be immediately sold and cash spent on mega conservatory/swimming pool complex. It's secondary purpose does seem to have something to do with winching dinghies but until I buy one, i wont find this out for sure

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Contrite green-eyed devil

Sorry about the abuse in the earlier posting. I was just about to turn the computer off and go to bed and found that hot off the plane you're posting about the dreadful two weeks you've had in the Med on a 75' dreamboat.

So - would you repeat the 'petrol cleaner' experiment?

And when will #1 son be given the keys to take his mates out for a jolly without you? Should I let my 11 years old #1 son have the keys to the humble 31 footer (or even the 6m RIB) on the grounds of proportionality?


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Re: Contrite green-eyed devil

depends on their age and attitude. the 14yearold was helming/skippering the 75 foot boat after having been given permish to take it out and anchor in the bay. Meanwhile I was on another boat zooming about. Now, if it had been me or swmbo at helm aged 14 we'd have probly wellied boat/car around at massive speed regardless, heehee, he can't stop us now, and it wd have been okay probably, or mebbe we'd have smashed the boat/ car and lived to tell the fabulius tale. son#2 is like this as well. But son#1 much more sensible than any of us were/are, and simply anchored as agreed. Son #2 noweher in sight had been told to go below and check portholes.

You have to sit back, tellem theyre the skipper, don't helpem out except if it gets dangerous, and "not be there" and lettem have a go, and see if they set themselves sensible limts, tell others to use lifejackets, sit down and observe safety precautions. More than that , they have to actually enforce the rules themselves - they're the skipper whether 12 foot or 23 metres. As I said, fraid I wasn't quite this responsible, and swmbo's dad never lett her drive his car till she was 30, and son #2 has a too-wicked streak which is fun but not right for youthful skippering.

We'll feel a ton safer with a real second helm who can berth the thing, and of course now i can show him the boring stuff bout how to make things work. Even age 6 he drove a rental 8metre sportsboat v sensibly all day. Then I took over after too much wine and smashed it on the fuel dock.

11years old could easily be old enough for a tender or a rib imho, provided that they can start the engine, get back in the boat from a soaking, find the safety cord, agree never ever to drive without safety cord even if it means going and buying another, and row it back from shore when dad pinches the keys as final test. imho. There are legal implications of course, and the sea was empty with only a few boats here and there, so this can't be done in busy areas. Though note i am still skipper if aboard, so insured. Pretty sure we wern't insured on that occassion. And perfectly reasonble on sizeable boat for skipper not to be invariably at the wheel - i might be better peering ahead and directing where to go.

I saw keen 14year olds who werre still vbeing refused permish to drive 8 hp rental tender in caribbean which seemed too severe, especially when our 11 year old nipped over in our dinghy to see if he wanted to play. I am sure he'll be fine whenever legal to have insurance as skipper. Though not sure some frineds mummies will let their kids go on a plane alone. Then they complain that their kids are not very responsible and go bonkers when out alone...

Yes, I think i will repeat the petrol! But not too often.

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Re: Contrite green-eyed devil

Read your posting with interest. Just a word of warning (or maybe you were kidding). The police (seaborn) are getting very hot down there at the moment. If they board you they want to see all your certificates which include I believe an ICC or equivalent. If the skipper can't show it. it can get very nasty indeed. I think if they found the skipper a minor with no ICC they would have a sense of humour failure. (just being helpful)

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Re: Contrite green-eyed devil

sensible head on, yes i agree. It was empty, and flat and we were returning to an anchoring spot we'd been to the day before.

separately, though, for kids in boats or even in cars or on motorbikes twoud be a good idea if they could get their hands on a car in safer circumstances than a normal road and earlier than aged 17 or whatever. Saily boats seem much better at this, albeit only in a bathtub aka Optimist.


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Re: Contrite green-eyed devil

I basically agree with you, unfortunately the authorities don't. What prompted my warning was I heard someone getting his boat impounded for not having an ICC.
A skipper on my boat when on charter was boarded last summer. He had forgotten his licence. He had to go to the police station the next day to show his documents. Luckily my boat's docs were all in order. He was flying the red ensign.

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Despicable behaviour

Sacking your skipper then surreptitiously training your very pleasant 14 year old son to take over. How tight is that?

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Just a quick thought, were you smoking when you cleaned the boat - don't want to drop ash on a nice clean boat do we?

If you're ever down Barcelona way I make chemical cleaners. I'll knock you up a special mix (He He) and even put your boat name on the label, but you'll have to collect it!

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Just got back last nite. Yes, twas rainy in the med for a while, but got sunny mid week.

I do believe you are right about Learner's boat, the Windy 11600. It is next pontoon from our berth so we can see what's happening. At beginning of week it had "for sale" sign on it. Then on Tuesday they had the covers off and showed people round. Then the next day the sign was gone. So I think it is sold, or sold subject to contract at least.

So Learner what is next move? There is a Rivarama for sale in the next berth. Colour was brown (=gluttony) I thought, but broker said it was aubergine (I forget which deadly sin that is, pride maybe?). You said a dayboat, so praps buy that?

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i have discovered L's problem. He has to find a nice boat in all respects so he and swmbo will like it. The Riverama next door is blimmin brown, broker sucked his teeth, so that's out. Anyway, having found a nice boat, L then is expert at putting in a lowish offer and bombroof when the broker gives it all the blarney to try and gettim into the realms of what the owner will take. L just says that's his offer, take it or leave it. But of course, cos he has actually found yet another quite nice boat, someone else offers a bit more. So really, L is nicely keeping the industry going by putting in an offer on almsot every boat, and when the broker says that "another bloke" has put in an offer for the paltry amount you were thinking of - you can be sure that the "other bloke" is Welsh.

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Re: Gazundering - I believe

From after the last house boom gazumping became gazundering so let's keep it consistent

Maybe the Welsh did something different - no I won't go there

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Rivarama out cos cool $700000 I think ..... anyone know a purple s/seeker 46.5 for sale....??

Learner's only problem is No boat..

I remind one again...I offered 10% MORE than someone suggested !!!!







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Great way to get cancer. Petrol components are absorbed thru the skin and benzene, for example is known to cause testicular cancer. Not one of your brightest ideas, IMHO, tcm.

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wow, better get checked out. Mind you, it can't be that you slosh a bit of petrol about for half an hour and then *ouchy* testicular cancer? I mean, most people working in petrol stations or driving petrol lorries would be pertwang dead after a few weeks, far more exposure to petrol. Nonetheless, we'll get emma to do it next time just to be on the safe side.

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