Experienced crew wanted Preston-Brighton 10/5/14 ish

sand_dune said:
Everyone else should be kind and wish me good luck, as well as their competent advice if they know it will help me, and not if they are full of it :) Remember to keep any irrelevant information out of this thread, because relevant information for would be participants gets harder to find. I think another 10 pages and the task will become nearly impossible.
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Ah well, that's bug***ed that then.
 
dylanwinter said:
I am a bit concerned that he brushed aside my only suggestion which was to take an umbrella

granted his his web manner is not all it could be so (and he is not alone in that) so I would rather not sail with him.... but then I am sure there are many forumites who would rather not sail with me.

I am learning a lot about sailors from this thread

D
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I am a bit concerned that he brushed aside my only suggestion which was to take an umbrella

Be not concerned. Using good advice from a previous thread on here, I have approached a major conglomerate who are letting me take a big black golf umbrella with their name on it (and some liquid refreshments...)

granted his his web manner is not all it could be so (and he is not alone in that) so I would rather not sail with him.... but then I am sure there are many forumites who would rather not sail with me.

Having actually spoken to the OP, I understand the reason for his manner. I have also gained some FACTS. Obviously these are not necessary for a good old disaster thread so others have speculated.

I am learning a lot about sailors from this thread

I agreed to this because someone came on here asking for constructive help.

It is as well that he posted here and not in the Crewing opportunities as it has generated MUCH more interest here (perhaps the Lounge MIGHT have been marginally better!!!)
 
Just a couple more precautions I would take that haven't yet been mentioned. Go up, or get a rigger up the mast to check everything. In my experience it's the things you can't see or reach easily that fail due to lack of maintenance.
Also, please hire a life raft. You might think it doesn't take long to pump up a dinghy, but on a bucking deck with a F10 trying to take it away, it's pretty damn difficult!
Otherwise, get someone who knows to check her systems out thoroughly, then go out for a day in some fairly strong weather and seas. Try everything out, especially bilge pumps and any other safety gear you can. Check it all again on your return. Then yes, as Dylan says, go for it, providing you have a competent and reasonably experienced skipper.
The safest, but not the most interesting way, is to stay well off the coast in deep water. That way if something goes wrong you have the sea room and time to attempt a fix before the situation becomes critical.
Sorry I can't join you and help with the prep, but busy trying to scrape a living!
Good luck and enjoy it!

D
PS. From my limited knowledge of Russian sailors, what some may lack in experience they more than make up for with ingenuity and sheer determination!
 
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I was trying to defend him against the accusation of being a troll. I lack social skills and most others!(especially bravery) and I am often accused of being a troll when I ask obvious or inane questions. A friend of mine on another forum is autistic and I have been boating with him (in fact I towed him about 60 miles) and the OP is very reminicent(?) if him. He is a good poker player though :)
 
I came quite close to buying the Douglas Boatyard once. Narrow escape. Funny place, especially for a big boat like that. Mind you the then owner had an even bigger one, in a private dock, while all the rest of the boats there were much less well served. There was also an interesting community of caravan liveaboards. You can lock into the Leeds Liverpool canal just a little way up from the yard I think but that might not be relevant to the OP.
 
dk said:
Also, please hire a life raft. You might think it doesn't take long to pump up a dinghy, but on a bucking deck with a F10 trying to take it away, it's pretty damn difficult!
The safest, but not the most interesting way, is to stay well off the coast in deep water. That way if something goes wrong you have the sea room and time to attempt a fix before the situation becomes critical.
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Can't help but think that this is a bit OTT!
Hire a raft, ok but I only bought (carried) one when I decided to cross Biscay!
As for the F10 and sea room, well the boat would be nicely tucked up in port if that was on the cards. It's only a leisurely coastal passage, not even x channel, though a stop off in Ireland might be quite nice.
 
LadyInBed said:
Can't help but think that this is a bit OTT!
Hire a raft, ok but I only bought (carried) one when I decided to cross Biscay!
As for the F10 and sea room, well the boat would be nicely tucked up in port if that was on the cards. It's only a leisurely coastal passage, not even x channel, though a stop off in Ireland might be quite nice.
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Absolutely agree, but I do think that an umbrella (or preferably a sprayhood) will be of use, particularly if the crew want to make best use of any weather windows to tick off major mileage when the weather serves.
 
Transport it by road, it'll cost little more than all the diesel and all the marina fees. Get it into Brighton, go for loads of fantastic day sails, have fun and get some lessons. I'm confused by the OP's odd approach, no survey, little safety gear and a huge amount of naivety, I just sense he either doesn't have a clue what he's undertaking or is someone who fears the sun.
 
sand_dune said:
Sorry I didn't catch that?

Almost everything is new on the boat installed by the previous owner, except for engine core and standing rigging. I was assured by the experienced and honest owner that the standing rigging is fine and doesn't need replacing. So I don't need a survey on this boat. The boat was finished in 2012 and has been in use occasionally, maybe not in winter. I can find out about diesel in the tank.
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I may be barking up the wrong tree, but the add someone attached showed a preston boat of 1987 Vintage -

If she is of 87 vintage, I would make sure that I thoroughly checked the cleanliness of the diesel, if possible by scavenging fuel from the bottom of the tank. At that age it will be dirty and if the boat has not been used recently the first bad sea will stir up the **** and silence will prevail.

This happened to me on a delivery trip - silence in the North Sea in F7 - and it is the most likely scenario for a problem in my view.

You place a lot of trust in the last owner. He may be telling the truth - he may not know about somethings. You must check for yourself.

I note that you have not had a survey - I don';t know of many insurers who will take on a boat without one.
 
I bought an umbrella today in prep for this weekends sailing trip. Great idea for keeping rain out of the cabin without putting the washboards in.

It doesn't sound too hard a passage, head west to Anglesey, then south to lands end and east till you see Brighton. With a few crew it won't take long. If you get problems then the 4th breakdown service will be along to bail you out.
 
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