Experienced crew wanted Preston-Brighton 10/5/14 ish

[dylanwinter]

aRGOS

I bought an umbrella today in prep for this weekends sailing trip. Great idea for keeping rain out of the cabin without putting the washboards in.

It doesn't sound too hard a passage, head west to Anglesey, then south to lands end and east till you see Brighton. With a few crew it won't take long. If you get problems then the 4th breakdown service will be along to bail you out.

Argos fishing umbrellas are particularly good - they have a bend in the middle of the pole and a thing on the top for a bungee

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9142945.htm

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[Tintin]

I will pick it up as we pass you!!!

actually if / when you get to falmouth give me a shout and I will buy you both a beer or two.

 

[MinorSwing]

Transport it by road, it'll cost little more than all the diesel and all the marina fees. Get it into Brighton, go for loads of fantastic day sails, have fun and get some lessons. I'm confused by the OP's odd approach, no survey, little safety gear and a huge amount of naivety, I just sense he either doesn't have a clue what he's undertaking or is someone who fears the sun.

I think you've summed it all up very well there. Strange that the OP only occasionally replies to posts; all of which seems to confirm that it's a troll.
Choosing Brighton as a destination is about the only part of the thread which has any merit. I kept boats in Brighton Marina for many years and, during that time, lived there for seven years. It has a great deal to offer.
I hope that Dylan's tongue in cheek post about navigation being a matter of hand held gps from buoy to buoy doesn't dissuade any newcomers to boating from learning dead reckoning and doing it properly. Of course you can do it that way but, when push comes to shove, without the knowledge of DR you will just be another Coastguard casualty. Besides, the gps only school of "navigation" lacks the pleasure and elegance of a passage based on planning and economy of effort, especially if just using the wind.

 

[dylanwinter]

Also, please hire a life raft. You might think it doesn't take long to pump up a dinghy, but on a bucking deck with a F10 trying to take it away, it's pretty damn difficult!

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surely not - the weather forecasts are so perfect I have not been out in anything above a six for years

a ten would be flagged for days before it arrived.

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[sand_dune]

I'm very busy now, just a short thing. BTW thanks to people who left some useful advice. I'll read this topic again to note who did that.

dylanwinter

Would you please give me a link to an Argos fishing umbrella that could be suitable for the job? I've never had to do with a fishing umbrella and there's a number of them to choose from.

It also is unfair to say that I brushed off the single(umbrella) suggestion you'd made. I never did, in fact I wrote "Thanks for your suggestion, can be something to think of. I'll speak with the previous owner to find out of the ways to shelter oneself in the cockpit."

 

[dylanwinter]

I think you've summed it all up very well there. Strange that the OP only occasionally replies to posts; all of which seems to confirm that it's a troll.
Choosing Brighton as a destination is about the only part of the thread which has any merit. I kept boats in Brighton Marina for many years and, during that time, lived there for seven years. It has a great deal to offer.
I hope that Dylan's tongue in cheek post about navigation being a matter of hand held gps from buoy to buoy doesn't dissuade any newcomers to boating from learning dead reckoning and doing it properly. Of course you can do it that way but, when push comes to shove, without the knowledge of DR you will just be another Coastguard casualty. Besides, the gps only school of "navigation" lacks the pleasure and elegance of a passage based on planning and economy of effort, especially if just using the wind.

I am afraid it is not tongue in cheek at all

three GPS devices on board - I do not keep a running check on distance made good or course

normally when passage making I could not tell you what the heading is in degrees - just a compass direction

who the heck keeps paper records as they sail?

the charts that came with Harmony had pencil marks and bearing all over them

utter waste of time

however, if doing it with pencils, rubbers, bits of plastic and walking rulers gives you pleasure then go ahead - and if you are convinced that it is doing anything to make you a safer sailor then that is a wonderful thing.

it is much better to spend time looking where you are going rather than working out where you think you have been

I fear that the RYA will not be asking me to be a course tutor in the near future

unqualified of Harmony

 

[LadyInBed]

My boat doesn't have a pram hood, I use a rectangular sun shade as the corners are easier to tie down.

The alternative is this:

 

[sand_dune]

Strange that the OP only occasionally replies to posts;

That's because of this:
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...-10-5-14-ish&p=4733573&highlight=#post4733573
I'll be mostly busy then away till Wednesday. Please don't expect much forum activity on my behalf until I'm back.

 

[Colvic Watson]

I'm very busy now, just a short thing. BTW thanks to people who left some useful advice. I'll read this topic again to note who did that.

dylanwinter

Would you please give me a link to an Argos fishing umbrella that could be suitable for the job? I've never had to do with a fishing umbrella and there's a number of them to choose from.

It also is unfair to say that I brushed off the single(umbrella) suggestion you'd made. I never did, in fact I wrote "Thanks for your suggestion, can be something to think of. I'll speak with the previous owner to find out of the ways to shelter oneself in the cockpit."

Guys, I think we have to man-up and say "He got us" - it was a good-un, just the right amount of innocence. Top marks sand_dune, you're good at this, I'd have been more ham fisted but you played it very nicely.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Guys, I think we have to man-up and say "He got us" - it was a good-un, just the right amount of innocence. Top marks sand_dune, you're good at this, I'd have been more ham fisted but you played it very nicely.

There is more than a hint of Mr Pooter to this thread. I wonder if Mr Gowing and Mr Cumming are available to crew?

 

[Uricanejack]

Troll?
I’m not really familiar with the concept. I expect it means a lot of you believe the OP is a fake. And has not bought a boat having no intention of sailing from Preston to any where.
Perhaps I am just naive?
All I saw was someone ask for a bit of advice without wishing to give out much info on his true identity.
He mentioned he has more theoretical knowledge and limited practical experience.

Why would this be so strange?
The whole RYA Yacht Master system is based on people doing courses getting the theoretical knowledge prior to getting the minimum required experience. or as they go along getting the qualifying trips before they do their YM.

Anyway troll or not, it doesn’t make any difference to me. I would encourage him to give it his best shot. And hopefully he finds some of the advice here useful.

If he is a fake sitting there behind a keyboard laughing at the advice or recommendations. Big deal.
I don’t loose any thing by it.

On the other hand if he is not a fake. He would be pretty discouraged about coming on here again.

 

[dylanwinter]

Troll?
I’m not really familiar with the concept. I expect it means a lot of you believe the OP is a fake. And has not bought a boat having no intention of sailing from Preston to any where.
Perhaps I am just naive?
All I saw was someone ask for a bit of advice without wishing to give out much info on his true identity.
He mentioned he has more theoretical knowledge and limited practical experience.

Why would this be so strange?
The whole RYA Yacht Master system is based on people doing courses getting the theoretical knowledge prior to getting the minimum required experience. or as they go along getting the qualifying trips before they do their YM.

Anyway troll or not, it doesn’t make any difference to me. I would encourage him to give it his best shot. And hopefully he finds some of the advice here useful.

If he is a fake sitting there behind a keyboard laughing at the advice or recommendations. Big deal.
I don’t loose any thing by it.

On the other hand if he is not a fake. He would be pretty discouraged about coming on here again.

well said

I think the least you can do is to react to a chap in the way that he presents himself

he is not asking you for money, he is not threatening you,


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[dslittle]

actually if / when you get to falmouth give me a shout and I will buy you both a beer or two.

You are on. Look forwards to seeing you.

Oh and nice to see balanced sensible posts by Urricanejack and Dylan.

Oh and I suppose that in the absence of Morecombe and Wise, there is an opening for a 'double act' of comedians on the TV and we might have heard them first on here!!! (To save future misunderstandings, I am NOT referring to Uricanejack and Dan here...)

 

[fergie_mac66]

Troll?
I’m not really familiar with the concept. I expect it means a lot of you believe the OP is a fake. And has not bought a boat having no intention of sailing from Preston to any where.
Perhaps I am just naive?
All I saw was someone ask for a bit of advice without wishing to give out much info on his true identity.
He mentioned he has more theoretical knowledge and limited practical experience.

Why would this be so strange?
The whole RYA Yacht Master system is based on people doing courses getting the theoretical knowledge prior to getting the minimum required experience. or as they go along getting the qualifying trips before they do their YM.

Anyway troll or not, it doesn’t make any difference to me. I would encourage him to give it his best shot. And hopefully he finds some of the advice here useful.

If he is a fake sitting there behind a keyboard laughing at the advice or recommendations. Big deal.
I don’t loose any thing by it.

On the other hand if he is not a fake. He would be pretty discouraged about coming on here again.

yep sums itupprettyyy well

no doubt there are a lot on here who have boats that never go anywhere

 

[fergie_mac66]

cross the atlantic

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If this man can cross the atlantic in a 5foot 4 inch boat why shouldnt someone be able to get from Preston to Brighton in a piddling 40+ with a bit of basic experience and a bit of nous . Its oly 70+ years since thousands of 18 years olds were fighting across the world with no experience with and just a few weeks basic traning and no gps, ais, radar, mobile teliphons and some engins that needed a bulb heating with a blowlamp befor they would start . Too many scrdy cats and people making money out of selling H&S stuff on the globe today.
Edit if it is a wind up the H&S walahs need winding up and putting in the middle of Livingstones africa and be told find there way back

 

[JumbleDuck]

If this man can cross the atlantic in a 5foot 4 inch boat why shouldnt someone be able to get from Preston to Brighton in a piddling 40+ with a bit of basic experience and a bit of nous .

Absolutely no reason at all. But if you post that your experience is "below mediocre" and then that it is "substantial", ask for an experienced crew and then flatly refuse to say who will skipper, you can expect some bemused responses.

It simply is not reasonable to expect people send in applications for shortlisting without telling them what the job is.

 

[Paddingtonbear]

I would always rather be a live coward than a dead hero although I have some sympathy for the turn left and go group as everyone should be free to do what they like provided they bring no harm to others.......this is obviously where I diverge from TLGG group.

 

[fergie_mac66]

Absolutely no reason at all. But if you post that your experience is "below mediocre" and then that it is "substantial", ask for an experienced crew and then flatly refuse to say who will skipper, you can expect some bemused responses.

It simply is not reasonable to expect people send in applications for shortlisting without telling them what the job is.

The job could surely change depending on the experience, untill the potential crew/skipper; says "i have been round the sepentine in a rowing boat, and want to lend a hand for experience, ohby the way I have a wooden leg wont be a problem will it" or "ive sailed round the world in a westerly centaur and am capable of skippering you round to brighton, I have a pistol and a cat of nine tails and will get you in to shape or shoot and eat you if you give me me lip". That face to face conversation is the bit that gives the potential crew, skipper, cabin person,cook,ships whore the choices . Besides that, the potential crew, skipper, cabin person,cook,ships whore can say "i'm onboard "or "your mad the boat has no umberella,but i'll stand at the quay and wave you off" . Those choices are only there after the face to face and only those in the face to face need be involved it is nobody elses business.

 

[fergie_mac66]

I would always rather be a live coward than a dead hero although I have some sympathy for the turn left and go group as everyone should be free to do what they like provided they bring no harm to others.......this is obviously where I diverge from TLGG group.

well guess youve eaten all the honey and are stuck in the hole!

 

[JumbleDuck]

Those choices are only there after the face to face and only those in the face to face need be involved it is nobody elses business.

Of course. The OP is fully entitled to sail what he wants, where he wants, how he wants and with whom he wants. However, if he wants to attract applicants in the first place, he might do well, or have done well, to phrase his advert rather more openly.

I find the idea of sailing a 41 footer from Preston to Brighton very appealing. I do not find this opportunity appealing.