Experienced crew wanted Preston-Brighton 10/5/14 ish

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We don't even know if he is a "half decent club sailor" and, from his own description, he probably has very little practical experience. From what I have read, to do the trip, with little experience, in a new to him, un-surveyed boat with possibly just one crew is a little too adventurous. He doesn't even know how he will handle sea sickness or if he will get sick.

I hope it works out for him....it probably will...but I hope he considers the advice which he has been given in good faith. Either way, I'm not going to loose sleep over it.

I too shall watch with interest

of course we may never find out....


I wonder if we could talk him into starting a blog.....

sounds like an interesting fellow though - focussed, determined, a quick learner, confident, well funded



"I am not prepared to discuss my experiences publicly. I do it in private though. My experience is significant by my measures and it was sufficient for me to get an insurance in the first place.

Something I was writing before this:
I'm going into sailing with a mindset that you can do it without a license. Some people are too cautious, maybe because they learn slowly, or because they have seen too many people who learn slowly. You cannot take the risk of painful and terrible death out of some things.. Like driving, crossing a street or the real killer - skiing. But you can assess it and compare with other activities. I'm not the person you can intimidate with sailing horror stories. I agree it's about common sense. I'm only open to constructive discussion of my objective, leading to it's completion in given time frame. "
 
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I am here my friends. Only taking a break. Actually watching some of the lovely videos I discovered from that well known Keep turning left blog.

Don't worry I am not discouraged by the negative comments. If they contain any useful practical information, I can learn from that. If they just do scaremongering, then they are wasting their time. I made my mind on how safe this journey can be and decided that it's safe enough to go ahead.

All the people writing explicitly that they would save the nerves avoiding me, clearly are not sailors themselves. For such people I must say that no cruise ship journey is on offer for which they should look somewhere else.

The invitation to sail mainly from Preston to Falmouth stands for people who are not afraid of a perfectly sound sailing boat offshore.

Any thoughts on what route you'll be taking?
 
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All the people writing explicitly that they would save the nerves avoiding me, clearly are not sailors themselves. For such people I must say that no cruise ship journey is on offer for which they should look somewhere else..

Oh dear.
You'll find that everyone who has posted is an experienced sailor. The question is........... are you?
I hope it works out for you though.
 

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I am here my friends. Only taking a break. Actually watching some of the lovely videos I discovered from that well known Keep turning left blog.

Don't worry I am not discouraged by the negative comments. If they contain any useful practical information, I can learn from that. If they just do scaremongering, then they are wasting their time. I made my mind on how safe this journey can be and decided that it's safe enough to go ahead.

All the people writing explicitly that they would save the nerves avoiding me, clearly are not sailors themselves. For such people I must say that no cruise ship journey is on offer for which they should look somewhere else.

The invitation to sail mainly from Preston to Falmouth stands for people who are not afraid of a perfectly sound sailing boat offshore.

aha

just spooted the KTL reference

some films may contain more than one factual error and several wrong opinions and should be used for training purposes only as a last resort

however, if you want to know how to navigate - here is a three minute course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqm8FqFEeCU
 

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Any thoughts on what route you'll be taking?
What are the options?

At the moment nothing is decided. I am going to meet experienced people this Fri-Mo with who I will discuss the journey. After that I will have all the final answers. Unless anyone else with experience joining me will have a different idea.
 

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The good that came out of this thread is that we can see how dear to people's hearts their sailing experience is. Lets celebrate, that your ranks are getting stronger with the addition of new blood.

however, if you want to know how to navigate - here is a three minute course
[/QUOTE] I understand - do not drive into a seal colony :)
 

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The invitation to sail mainly from Preston to Falmouth stands for people who are not afraid of a perfectly sound sailing boat offshore.

It sounds like a fun trip in a nice boat, but I don't think you are doing yourself any favours by being so cagey about who will be skippering her. That's most emphatically not to say that whoever is taking on the role needs to be dripping with qualifications and experience, but it will affect the range of people to whom the trip is interesting and attractive.
 

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Anyone willing to join me on the trip should contact me with a pm, stating their ability and desired length of participation. These people will be short listed for the journey and reserved a role in the crew according to their ability. We will also discuss details of the trip.

Everyone else should be kind and wish me good luck, as well as their competent advice if they know it will help me, and not if they are full of it :) Remember to keep any irrelevant information out of this thread, because relevant information for would be participants gets harder to find. I think another 10 pages and the task will become nearly impossible.

Will try to put this in a head post.
 

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Everyone else should be kind and wish me good luck, as well as their competent advice if they know it will help me, and not if they are full of it :)
Will try to put this in a head post.

My serious advice, I have no idea how competent it is but I have not died yet nor killed anybody who ws sailing with me, would be to stay in deep water, do not try anything too clever in terms of short cuts across shallow tidal areas, keep an close eye on the weather forecasts as they develop in the run up to the passage and continue to monitor and evaluate options once underway, be prepared to take shelter if you suspect anything nasty is heading your way, have a clear understanding (in a written passage plan) as to which harbours can be entered when in case of distress or press of weather. Check your fuel supplies and batteries are healthy before you start, have spare impellers, fan belts and filters and know how to change them, check all of your standing rigging for loose connections and and points of wear or weakness, check you running rigging for wear, snagging etc, know how, and practice with the crew, how to put a reef or two in in the dark , check your sails are strong and have no apparent weakneses or points of wear. Have enough charts for the route that you will take and anywhere that you might reasonably end up, say SE Ireland??

As long as you keep going in roughly the right direction you will end up close to where you want to be, that is as good as it gets on my boat.

Others may add things that I have forgotten.
 

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I am probably being utterly stupid here - but looking at the pictures posted on MrB's link (post #21) I can't figure out either how to get into the cabin without banging your head, or how to stand and steer without being squashed against the wheel!
 
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exactly what JD says

My serious advice, I have no idea how competent it is but I have not died yet nor killed anybody who ws sailing with me, would be to stay in deep water, do not try anything too clever in terms of short cuts across shallow tidal areas, keep an close eye on the weather forecasts as they develop in the run up to the passage and continue to monitor and evaluate options once underway, be prepared to take shelter if you suspect anything nasty is heading your way, have a clear understanding (in a written passage plan) as to which harbours can be entered when in case of distress or press of weather. Check your fuel supplies and batteries are healthy before you start, have spare impellers, fan belts and filters and know how to change them, check all of your standing rigging for loose connections and and points of wear or weakness, check you running rigging for wear, snagging etc, know how, and practice with the crew, how to put a reef or two in in the dark , check your sails are strong and have no apparent weakneses or points of wear. Have enough charts for the route that you will take and anywhere that you might reasonably end up, say SE Ireland??

As long as you keep going in roughly the right direction you will end up close to where you want to be, that is as good as it gets on my boat.

Others may add things that I have forgotten.


Perfect recipe for success

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I've found this thread hilarious. I'm still laughing. I'm convinced that this is a brilliantly subtle spoof.

If it is genuine, then my apologies & I wish you the best of luck with your trip, but...

Dylan, I think you are great and have greatly enjoyed both your DVDs and your blog posts BUT sailing is very dangerous so much so that my nerve has almost gone I and I am thinking of giving up restoring my boat and staying on dry land and that is a stinkpot. I am simply terrified and your devil may care attitude makes it much worse.

as someone else already commented, I think this post is a complete troll. I think Dylan (bless his little woolly sox) is just fanning the flames.

It has many aspects which hark back to similar threads.
Some of the phrasing and the lack of response to negative comments puts me in mind of...........da-da-daaaaa...............GC1
 
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