Experienced crew wanted Preston-Brighton 10/5/14 ish

[Searush]

Thanks for your suggestion, can be something to think of. I'll speak with the previous owner to find out of the ways to shelter oneself in the cockpit. It's mostly the face, isn't it? The rest can be wrapped in water/wind proof clothing.

That cockpit area does look very exposed. The sort of area that looks good in the showroom or a sunny marina with a scattering of scantily clad ladies, but almost no shelter whatsoever for the helmsman on a cold, wet & windy night. I would consider at least a Perspex "windshield" in front of the wheel that the helmsman can stand or sit behind. Alternatively, a wheel pilot that can be managed from the nav area - IF you have reasonable visibility from inside.

Even with the very best oilies & multi-layer thermals it can get very cold & wet - and that can be utterly exhausting. Have you ever done a long motorbike ride, or a long journey in an open car? The effect is very similar & surprisingly tiring. The buffeting & wind noise seems to make everything so much harder. Being able to duck behind a screen or doghouse, or spend a little time in a pilothouse makes a huge difference on a long trip.

Of course, you may get fabulous weather with fair winds, brilliant sunshine & balmy nights, but that doesn't sound like the Irish sea that I know . . .

 

[Tintin]

Let me be a bit blunt and inject a dose of reality to your misty eyed plans.

1. It doesnt look like you have nearly enough experience to skipper this trip so buy the expertise in please.

2. The boat is shiny and looks good. I almost bought a boat like that once. I shelled out for a survey and it was money well spent. Get a survey.

3. You need more than a few hours to get familiar with the boat and check its systems. Do you know how to change the impeller, fuel filter, etc Even the best delivery skippers with many thousands of miles under their boots take time to check and prep. Please do it properly.

Bravado and dreams and enthusiasm are a dangerous mix at sea my friend.

 

[dylanwinter]

Let me be a bit blunt and inject a dose of reality to your misty eyed plans.

1. It doesnt look like you have nearly enough experience to skipper this trip so buy the expertise in please.

2. The boat is shiny and looks good. I almost bought a boat like that once. I shelled out for a survey and it was money well spent. Get a survey.

3. You need more than a few hours to get familiar with the boat and check its systems. Do you know how to change the impeller, fuel filter, etc Even the best delivery skippers with many thousands of miles under their boots take time to check and prep. Please do it properly.

Bravado and dreams and enthusiasm are a dangerous mix at sea my friend.

way too pessimistic

check the boat over properly, , a couple of good blokes, he has plenty of time to wait for good weather

as long as the engine runs and he has enough fuel anyone could get the boat there

every time the sails go up is a bonus

given the time he has available he should never have to face anything tougher than a force five

a boat like that will not even notice the swell.

It is a short trip around a well populated and wonderfully bouyed island

sailing is easy - sailing is safe

D

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[bigwow]

Perhaps there is another boat up in Preston, going to Brighton, that you could cruise down in company with?:encouragement:

 

[MinorSwing]

I've found this thread hilarious. I'm still laughing. I'm convinced that this is a brilliantly subtle spoof.

If it is genuine, then my apologies & I wish you the best of luck with your trip, but...

Me too

 

[dslittle]

You mention that you're not too experienced,have you checked with your insurance if you are covered for such a trip? Another option would be to get a professional to help you move her. Take a look at this thread (is actually next to yours on the forum) http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?394948-An-amazing-adventure

Hmm. Interesting. What 'special' insurance does an owner need to sail their boat on a coastal passage?

 

[Paddingtonbear]

Dylan, I think you are great and have greatly enjoyed both your DVDs and your blog posts BUT sailing is very dangerous so much so that my nerve has almost gone I and I am thinking of giving up restoring my boat and staying on dry land and that is a stinkpot. I am simply terrified and your devil may care attitude makes it much worse.

 

[dylanwinter]

Dylan, I think you are great and have greatly enjoyed both your DVDs and your blog posts BUT sailing is very dangerous so much so that my nerve has almost gone I and I am thinking of giving up restoring my boat and staying on dry land and that is a stinkpot. I am simply terrified and your devil may care attitude makes it much worse.

the stats do not lie. If you are brave enough and clever enough to drive a car you can sail a boat around a small island. You would be hard pressed to find a safer way to spend 11 days

D

 

[Paddingtonbear]

I am very sorry and I know you have far greater knowledge than I will ever have but that is utter *******s. The owners admits to being very inexperienced to say the least and he is intending to sail in some very tricky waters on a fairly big boat that is new to him with a crew that don't know each other. Sounds utter madness to me. The safest way to spend 11 days indeed, that must diminish your argument straight away, how about sitting at home reading a book.

 

[jac]

the stats do not lie. If you are brave enough and clever enough to drive a car you can sail a boat around a small island. You would be hard pressed to find a safer way to spend 11 days

D

+1

A lot of sailing is common sense, linked in with some knowledge and some preparation.

I would get a survey though, not sure what price you're looking at but a survey on a larger/more expensive boat usually pays for itself as the surveyor WILL find something that he's not happy with and down comes the price.

 

[MrB]

Hmm. Interesting. What 'special' insurance does an owner need to sail their boat on a coastal passage?

Just something i read on here, the persons insurance company wouldn`t let him sail his boat alone until he had some training due to lack of experience . I could sail an Oyster 885 tomorrow around the UK having never sailed in my life.....doubt i would get insurance to do so though.

 

[scottie]

I understand that you have cover for crew but it will be split up over different legs this alone is likely to cause problems in having deadlines and transport connections.
The scariest trip I have done was delivering a boat with a new owner who new little about the boat or sailing and that was a day passage on a well known to me stretch of water.
Get a professional skipper to do it .

 

[sand_dune]

I am not prepared to discuss my experiences publicly. I do it in private though. My experience is significant by my measures and it was sufficient for me to get an insurance in the first place.

Something I was writing before this:
I'm going into sailing with a mindset that you can do it without a license. Some people are too cautious, maybe because they learn slowly, or because they have seen too many people who learn slowly. You cannot take the risk of painful and terrible death out of some things.. Like driving, crossing a street or the real killer - skiing. But you can assess it and compare with other activities. I'm not the person you can intimidate with sailing horror stories. I agree it's about common sense. I'm only open to constructive discussion of my objective, leading to it's completion in given time frame.

 

[sand_dune]

I understand that you have cover for crew but it will be split up over different legs this alone is likely to cause problems in having deadlines and transport connections.

Right now I don't have enough people for the southbound leg of the journey. Do apply.

 

[dylanwinter]

the OP may by now beginning to realise that if you are after a few thousand reasons for staying in port or not doing something then this is the place to find them.

As with any endeavor then you have to assess the risks and the quality of the advice.

we only go once around the wheel of life...

D

 

[dslittle]

Just something i read on here, the persons insurance company wouldn`t let him sail his boat alone until he had some training due to lack of experience . I could sail an Oyster 885 tomorrow around the UK having never sailed in my life.....doubt i would get insurance to do so though.

I seem to remember a quote in relation to a prospective purchaser asking the mpg of a Rolls Royce. I would assume that the owner of a 885 needn't worry too much about insurance.
Realistically what good is insurance to the crew of a foundering yacht?

 

[MinorSwing]

..... Some people are too cautious, maybe because they learn slowly, or because they have seen too many people who learn slowly. ...

After over 40 years of sailing all over the world, and having owned three boats, I realise that the more you learn about boats, sailing, and the sea, the more there is to learn. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

 

[dslittle]

the OP may by now beginning to realise that if you are after a few thousand reasons for staying in port or not doing something then this is the place to find them.

There be monsters out there (if you don't fall over the edge...)

 

[Tintin]

I am not prepared to discuss my experiences publicly. I do it in private though. My experience is significant by my measures and it was sufficient for me to get an insurance in the first place.

Something I was writing before this:
I'm going into sailing with a mindset that you can do it without a license. Some people are too cautious, maybe because they learn slowly, or because they have seen too many people who learn slowly. You cannot take the risk of painful and terrible death out of some things.. Like driving, crossing a street or the real killer - skiing. But you can assess it and compare with other activities. I'm not the person you can intimidate with sailing horror stories. I agree it's about common sense. I'm only open to constructive discussion of my objective, leading to it's completion in given time frame.

Oh well, there is always the RNLI on call ready to help




sheesh

 

[dylanwinter]

he will be fine...

he will make it

GPS - a few charts - decent engine

mind you... I am not going with him