Experienced crew wanted Preston-Brighton 10/5/14 ish

[Tintin]

he will be fine...

he will make it

GPS - a few charts - decent engine

mind you... I am not going with him

probably,

but I am a believer in Vigo's Black Box Therory - spending time checking a new boat, having enough knowledge & experience rather than trusting in blind faith and crossed fingers.

I suggest OP goes looking for 4 leaf clovers and wishes on shooting stars - every little helps

 

[Allan]

Mmmm, this thread has gone a strange way, almost loungesk! (A new word?). I'm very much at the Dylan end of the views. I've done a few deliveries, most including a rounding of Lands end. Due to the condition of some of the boats, they were a little foolhardy. All ended safely. It's always easier to find reasons not go but life's too short, in my opinion. Another foolhardy trip of mine, a two handed Atlantic circuit on a bilge keel Moody 31, convinced me that none-stop trips are easier. If I were doing the trip I would round Holyhead and Lands end offshore then outside IOW and direct to Brighton. Stops would only be for repairs. There are plenty of places to run to if the weather deteriorated.
I understand we are all different and have different ways to look at tasks. My way has given me lots of pleasure and you always learn lots of new things. From talking to others, one of the biggest problems can be people! I've never suffered from this but it has to be taken into account.
Good luck to the OP with his adventure and his new boat, she looks excellent albeit very exposed.
Allan

 

[LadyInBed]

the OP may by now beginning to realise that if you are after a few thousand reasons for staying in port or not doing something then this is the place to find them.

That's for sure, but hopefully the OP can sort the wheat from the chaff.

 

[LadyInBed]

It is interesting to compare the replies in this thread with those in dancrane's thread
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?395001-North-Brittany-safe-havens-are-there-any
Which has evolved to dingy X channel to Brittany!

 

[scottie]

Right now I don't have enough people for the southbound leg of the journey. Do apply.

Thank you but no thanks I do not need the experience or stress

 

[Uricanejack]

I am not prepared to discuss my experiences publicly. I do it in private though. My experience is significant by my measures and it was sufficient for me to get an insurance in the first place.

Something I was writing before this:
I'm going into sailing with a mindset that you can do it without a license. Some people are too cautious, maybe because they learn slowly, or because they have seen too many people who learn slowly. You cannot take the risk of painful and terrible death out of some things.. Like driving, crossing a street or the real killer - skiing. But you can assess it and compare with other activities. I'm not the person you can intimidate with sailing horror stories. I agree it's about common sense. I'm only open to constructive discussion of my objective, leading to it's completion in given time frame.

Very good.
Though I would say you can limit the risk's by apropriate planning and precautions. If you do Dylan is correct sailing is both safe and fun.

 

[dylanwinter]

Very good.
Though I would say you can limit the risk's by apropriate planning and precautions. If you do Dylan is correct sailing is both safe and fun.

I think that the reaction on here would have been improved with a bit more transparency from the OP

but I am sure he will be a happy sailor and come to love his fellow Brightonites which does seem as though it is a marina with a lot of most interesting inhabitants. The OP is one more to the mix.

D

 

[JumbleDuck]

I am not prepared to discuss my experiences publicly. I do it in private though. My experience is significant by my measures and it was sufficient for me to get an insurance in the first place.

My experience is below mediocre, but theoretical knowledge is ok. I'm not afraid to sailing or rough seas, but cannot guarantee not falling seasick.

I am having some difficulty reconciling these two statements.

 

[zzyyxx]

Christ guys it's not a bloody moonshot.

 

[Rigger Mortice]

I am having some difficulty reconciling these two statements.

Yes, I noticed that as well.
This is one for me to steer clear of, but I hope it turns out all right

 

[Paddingtonbear]

he will be fine...

he will make it

GPS - a few charts - decent engine

mind you... I am not going with him

All of which require knowledge and practice to use properly which the OP clearly does not have. He/she clearly is somewhat 'off the wall' which is possible why he is going to Brighton . A decent engine will not run on **** diesel either. Will watch progress with interest and I will be at Brighton Marina to welcome his arrival.

 

[zzyyxx]

He/she clearly is somewhat 'off the wall' which is possible why he is going to Brighton .

Dunno, leaving Preston is a fairly normal thing to do...

 

[Paddingtonbear]

All of which require knowledge and practice to use properly which the OP clearly does not have. He/she clearly is somewhat 'off the wall' which is possible why he is going to Brighton . A decent engine will not run on **** diesel either. Will watch progress with interest and I will be at Brighton Marina to welcome his arrival.

Dylan
Further more these forums are full of mostly experienced and sensible people asking for solutions to a myriad of problems that occur on an almost daily basis when your are involved with boats. Your attitude seems to be blunder blindly ahead and hope but what you are forgetting is you have over forty yaers experience and have no doubt forgotten more than most people will ever know.

 

[JumbleDuck]

All of which require knowledge and practice to use properly which the OP clearly does not have.

I think Preston to Brighton can safely be done with quite limited skill and experience ... as long as there is knowledge of the limits.

 

[dylanwinter]

More than forty

Dylan
Further more these forums are full of mostly experienced and sensible people asking for solutions to a myriad of problems that occur on an almost daily basis when your are involved with boats. Your attitude seems to be blunder blindly ahead and hope but what you are forgetting is you have over forty yaers experience and have no doubt forgotten more than most people will ever know.

more than forty now

which si why I feel qualified in expressing concern at the delight some people take in pouring cold water on any idea

after a while on here you do soon learn who those whose first reaction is to scorn any plan and those who actually bring something to the table

I have been very grateful for all the help and advice I have picked up here

but it takes some determination not to just throw in the towell.

JKust saying like

it seems he has gone away now

and I can hardly blame him for that

he is not the first Nubee who has received mostly grief

sorry about trying to counteract some of the negativity

all that aside - sailing is simple and safe

D

 

[dylanwinter]

Dylan
Further more these forums are full of mostly experienced and sensible people asking for solutions to a myriad of problems that occur on an almost daily basis when your are involved with boats. Your attitude seems to be blunder blindly ahead and hope but what you are forgetting is you have over forty yaers experience and have no doubt forgotten more than most people will ever know.

lecture me here - much more intersting. It will be most edifying to compare our environmental credentials

 

[Rigger Mortice]

sorry about trying to counteract some of the negativity

all that aside - sailing is simple and safe

D

I don't think that is fair criticism.

Most of the comments have been constructive and clearly explained. If anything the "negative" ones have given more helpful advice than others. The OP can choose to accept that advice or not as he wishes but it is surely better that he considers getting more than one crew, or a more experienced skipper than simply gets told "go for it". Peeps have been making suggestions about things that he may not, as he is inexperienced, have even thought about.

I hope it all works out as you describe. I hope that, if problems occur, that he is properly prepared.

 

[dylanwinter]

I don't think that is fair criticism.

Most of the comments have been constructive and clearly explained. If anything the "negative" ones have given more helpful advice than others. The OP can choose to accept that advice or not as he wishes but it is surely better that he considers getting more than one crew, or a more experienced skipper than simply gets told "go for it". Peeps have been making suggestions about things that he may not, as he is inexperienced, have even thought about.

I hope it all works out as you describe. I hope that, if problems occur, that he is properly prepared.

advice to get a pro or move it overland

overkill surely

11 days, 350 miles, big tough boat

what happened to the sense of adventure that sent Shane off around the world?

at least no-one told him to get his RYA Oceanmaster before setting off.

surely any half decent club sailor could do the trip without any worries?

D

 

[Rigger Mortice]

advice to get a pro or move it overland

overkill surely

11 days, 350 miles, big tough boat

what happened to the sense of adventure that sent Shane off around the world?

at least no-one told him to get his RYA Oceanmaster before setting off.

surely any half decent club sailor could do the trip without any worries?

D

We don't even know if he is a "half decent club sailor" and, from his own description, he probably has very little practical experience. From what I have read, to do the trip, with little experience, in a new to him, un-surveyed boat with possibly just one crew is a little too adventurous. He doesn't even know how he will handle sea sickness or if he will get sick.

I hope it works out for him....it probably will...but I hope he considers the advice which he has been given in good faith. Either way, I'm not going to loose sleep over it.

 

[sand_dune]

it seems he has gone away now

and I can hardly blame him for that

D

I am here my friends. Only taking a break. Actually watching some of the lovely videos I discovered from that well known Keep turning left blog.

Don't worry I am not discouraged by the negative comments. If they contain any useful practical information, I can learn from that. If they just do scaremongering, then they are wasting their time. I made my mind on how safe this journey can be and decided that it's safe enough to go ahead.

All the people writing explicitly that they would save the nerves avoiding me, clearly are not sailors themselves. For such people I must say that no cruise ship journey is on offer for which they should look somewhere else.

The invitation to sail mainly from Preston to Falmouth stands for people who are not afraid of a perfectly sound sailing boat offshore.