Mariner69
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He is right; it, rigging slips, can be part of the process of preparing for sea but in itself is not 'singling up'
Dip the rope
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He is right; it, rigging slips, can be part of the process of preparing for sea but in itself is not 'singling up'
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I am wrong on this so I stand corrected. Yet in 30 years I never had any issues with multiple lines on bollards.
Shakemeister
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Three homonyms in one short sentence. Excellent ! :encouragement:
Anyway it takes seconds to dip an eye so why are some posters still trying to justify not doing it? 19 pages of this 'why I believe dipping eyes is irrelevant to small boats' rubbish.
If I ever find some that some arrogant ignoramus has dropped lines over mine making it difficult for me to leave I will be very tempted to take my rigging knife to them after reading this thread.
It takes seconds to dip an eye. Not to do so is ignorant, thoughtless, rude, arrogant or aggressive.
andygc
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I'll rephrase it. It isn't called "doubling up"
On those vessels (which in my experience include both service and civilian large sail training vessels) where there is no shore party and the normal practice is to rig slips for departure, the order "single up" is an instruction to rig the slips and remove other lines. In those vessels where there are people ashore available to release lines on departure, it just means that the additional lines ashore should be released.
Will that satisfy you?
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Shakemeister
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Rigging slips is 'singling up', not doubling up.
Rigging slips is 'singling up', not doubling up.
lpdsn
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Is that "Slipping the dip"?
Spyro
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If I've ever heard a total over reaction that has to be it. Everyone has to learn and not all boaters will have read this thread. Even if they had they are still probably none the wiser. Will you be taking the rigging knife to the arrogant ignoramus or the lines, or both?
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AuntyRinum
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Are you sure about that? I can't think of anywhere in Guernsey where the Queen Elizabeth could dock.
Hydrozoan
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Fair enough.
But to that I must quote F E Smith: "None the wiser, perhaps, my lord but certainly better informed".
D
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I missed this post. What a nasty post and nasty person you are, if I ever inconvenience you please give me the curtesy of helping you out instead of slashing up my yacht's lines. You remind me of a dick head on here who said much the same about anyone who rafted up to him, no thought, just a slashing lines and casting off. I may have a firm opinion on certain matters but I would never wish to harm another persons stuff just because they behaved differently.
PuffTheMagicDragon
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+1 :encouragement:
l'escargot
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Oh, I bet there is - have to be tomorrow though, just having a beer after coming out the theatre...:encouragement:
l'escargot
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Making it difficult to leave? If you can't sort out a few ropes you should sell your boat and buy a bike. :encouragement:
The only ignorant, thoughtless, rude, arrogant and aggressive person on here is you. You must be a bundle of laughs to moor up with...
l'escargot
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I think you're probably right :encouragement:
Poignard
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No.
Singling up means removing extra lines that may have been necessary so that the ship is secured by the minimum number of lines, ready for departure. Just that.
Poignard
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Triumph of Hadenough?
Hadenough was right!
Nevertheless, it's probably not a good idea to assume that any casual helper in a marina would be familiar with this book.
Hadenough was right!
“If two bights or eye splices are to be placed over the same bollard, the second one must be led up and through the eye of the first and then placed over the bollard. This method, which makes it possible for either to be cast off independently of the other, is called dipping the eye.”
Noel, John, Jr, Captain U.S. Navy (Ret); Knight’s Modern Seamanship (18th edition, 1988), chapter 10; pub: John Wiley & Sons.
Nevertheless, it's probably not a good idea to assume that any casual helper in a marina would be familiar with this book.
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ghostlymoron
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Or is it dipping the slip?
ghostlymoron
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Especially when mis quoted as "dipping the rope"
I love this thread as I'm on holiday and have nothing else to do. It shows the forum at its best - diverse opinions, cut and thrust, personal insults - its got it all!
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RichardS
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But much of this thread has been about how the correct nautical term is dipping the eye and that Hadenough is therefore most definitely wrong! Or are we starting over again?
Richard
