Diesel Bug Treatment

Just to dispel a few myths...

Ok - but care to choose what you are trying to dispel ...

Adding anything to a tank that is already contaminted with bug will NOT clean it. It may (if you're lucky) kill (most of) the bug that will then settle to the bottom as sludge ready to block your filter.

True if all you add is Biocide. That is basically just a killer. What is needed is an Enzyme that breaks down the bug debris to minute size and capable of being burnt.

A bigger filter will probably just take longer to choke on this in rough weather than a smaller one, but choke it is still likely to do.

True in case of debris not broken down.

Polishing fuel cannot remove bug in the tank, it only cleans the fuel. If you return the polished fuel to the tank it's a complete waste of time as you've done nothing to remove the sludge settled on the tank's bottom but the engine will remain happy on the clean fuel - until the filter clogs again.

Fuel Polishing has no effect other than removing physical particulate and most systems I read on forums / online actually have micron size filters LESS than a decent engine fuel filter. I conducted a trial in my own lab for my own interests ... this was back in 2008 where I used various retained samples of Gasoils (Heating Oils through to ULSD).

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First a small amount of each was passed through lab filtration to determine levels. Second large part of each was contaminated and allowed to develop. No biocide or additives were given. Filtration again of part of that part to determine change.
The remainder of the 'infected' samples were each passed through a system of pump / filters that had same micron size as a contributor on these forums had been advocating all those years ago ... the circulation was repeated many times.
Finally all samples were again checked for levels and also visual appearance.

Results ? Particulate was barely changed. Colour was slightly clearer in the darker grades.

Why did I do it ? I had over 1000 litres of retained Gasoil that no longer needed to be kept and I wanted to use in the boat ... plus I had already suffered blocked filters. That fuel in the end was used as fire starter and blended off slowly .....

That which was blended off and used in the boat - had Enzyme added .... even though the ratio of that to 'fresh clean fuel' was extremely low.

You can now understand my view on Fuel Polishing ...

Solution? Have bug? Merely removing and plishng the fuel is pointess. The sludge won't be removed. Totally empty and blast/scrub tank clean on all internal surfaces inc walls and top. Ensure especially the bottom is totally cleared of crud. If the tank is much baffled then so will you be as there isn't a ready solution bar bigger/parallel filters and lots of bug killer. Fuel removed can be polished and returned to the tank once it's internal surfaces are cleaned off.

Problem is most tanks cannot be cleaned as you suggest - take my 80 ltr tank ... its a truck tank that has 3 compartments to it with through flow lower sections ... designed to reduce fuel movement and fuel starvation. Only way to try clean that is circulating fuel ..

Not yet got bug?
...Better. Use additives to prevent it.

Moral? Don't risk it, habitually keep tanks full as full as practical, esp on layup with biocide mixed in.

As with most diseases, prevention is easier and less painful than cure.

ALL middle distillates and heavys have Bug ..... even Lubricating oil in fact. Reason Lub Oil does not usually end up showing it - is due to the blending and production processes that near eradicate it.

If people don't believe about Lub Oil ............... I can relate an event :

Petroship A ...... 40,000 ton Motor Tanker. On sampling the Lub oil of the main engine ... particulate was observed. Ship was then suspended from ops and we were anchored while main engine was drained ... and we then did internal inspection ... yes we could poke head in and look ! The special paint on the sump walls was seen sliding down as if there was goo between it and the steel. The goo was living organism that had grown in the Lub and then got behind the paint.
Engine was steam cleaned and then fresh oil added.
The old was blended off into the fuel ........ not my decision ...
It may be a ship - but that Lub Oil is not much different to what you have - other than it being larger volume and Industrial Grade.

Just to comment ... :giggle:
 
Update from OP. I removed the cover from the inspection panel a few days ago to have a look. Because of the baffles I can only see a small section at the back of the tank. The diesel looks clean and bright and no sign of contamination. I changed the filter again and I've now run for close to 2 hours and the filter looks clear - the sea has been calm so the tank is not being unduly agitated. I've ordered Startron and awaiting delivery.
 
Soltron was developed by Prof. Blair in the Mech. Eng. Dept. at Queens University Belfast at the same time as he was designing the engines for Ray McCullochs racing two stroke motorbikes (Ray was a technician in the lab. a very fast one). Anyone into bikes back then respected them, they knew their stuff. It was marketed widely and I have used it since those times, it is not a biocide like the others it is an enzyme treatment, about a decade ago the formula was taken over by an American company who gave it the name Startron as a marine product, shortly after soltron disappeared as a trading name. They are the same product. If you regularly add Soltron/Startron you do not need to use biocides.
 
A couple of years ago I filled my S type with petrol instead of diesel!!! Whilst the RAC man pumped it out we talked about diesel bug and it’s treatment for my boat and he sold me a bottle of Aquasol which he said they recommended but I have never seen it in any of the various articles in the sailing press. Stupidly I have yet to use it but before I do does anyone recognise the product?
 
Soltron was developed by Prof. Blair in the Mech. Eng. Dept. at Queens University Belfast at the same time as he was designing the engines for Ray McCullochs racing two stroke motorbikes (Ray was a technician in the lab. a very fast one). Anyone into bikes back then respected them, they knew their stuff. It was marketed widely and I have used it since those times, it is not a biocide like the others it is an enzyme treatment, about a decade ago the formula was taken over by an American company who gave it the name Startron as a marine product, shortly after soltron disappeared as a trading name. They are the same product. If you regularly add Soltron/Startron you do not need to use biocides.

According to most of the Soltron websites, it was actually developed by Japanese scientists! I say "most of the Soltron websites" because the stuff is sold in numerous guises, with different container sizes and label designs. I used to use it, but decided that there was no way of knowing what I was buying, so I stopped using it and use Marine 16 instead.

Soltron has not "disappeared as a trading name" - Force 4 and Marine SuperStore, amongst others, sell "Soltron", but all in different bottles with different branding. Snake oil!
 
You might be right, my info. is based on what I was told by folk from QUB way back in the 80/90s, so hearsay.
I still use Startron though and have faith in it.
 
Read through the list of the late Prof. Blairs published papers, confirmed that what I was told and was repeating here about his involvement with Soltron was indeed total ballox.
My apologies.
 
Inside info .... and I'll leave it thyat :

Soltron was regarded as a rip-off of Startron product ... and was effectively pushed off the market ...

Startron as produced and marketed by Starbright USA.

As to who actually created the product in the first place - does it really matter ? As long as you get the Starbright USA labelled Startron and not some mickey-mouse copy - it works.
 
Update from OP. I removed the cover from the inspection panel a few days ago to have a look. Because of the baffles I can only see a small section at the back of the tank. The diesel looks clean and bright and no sign of contamination. I changed the filter again and I've now run for close to 2 hours and the filter looks clear - the sea has been calm so the tank is not being unduly agitated. I've ordered Startron and awaiting delivery.
As I mentioned above I ordered Startron. I ordered from East Marine a well known company in Turkey with outlets in a number of marinas including Marmaris, Gökçek and Bodrum. I ordered the 3.79L size as it appeared to be good value compared to the smaller size - less than £130. I couldn't see any outlet in the UK selling this size but based on the prices for the smaller sizes this works out quite well. Must be the first time I've found an imported product in Turkey cheaper than UK prices.
 
Whilst fitting a NEMA fuel tank sender to my diesal tank I though I would check inside - see picture. This is after I had used Marine 16 and Fuel Set since I bought the boat in 2015. I always
tkeeep it topped up etc I was a little surprised to say the leastank.jpg
 
Whilst fitting a NEMA fuel tank sender to my diesal tank I though I would check inside - see picture. This is after I had used Marine 16 and Fuel Set since I bought the boat in 2015. I always
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I am not surprised .. sorry to say.

Too many times I read people say XX additive is this that and all sorts ...............
 
Are you saying additives are a waste of money or what?

No not at all ...

Trouble is you need to use correct additive for each job you ask of it.

Its no good expecting a Biocide to break down the 'goop' that results from its use .... its excellent at killing the bugs - but naff all use to break it down to be burnt along with the fuel in the engine.
 
A couple of years ago I filled my S type with petrol instead of diesel!!! Whilst the RAC man pumped it out we talked about diesel bug and it’s treatment for my boat and he sold me a bottle of Aquasol which he said they recommended but I have never seen it in any of the various articles in the sailing press. Stupidly I have yet to use it but before I do does anyone recognise the product?
I use Aquasol and it is a great product for keeping my fresh water tank clean and the water good and safe to drink! Aqua Sol Complete Water Treatment - 300ml

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