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FVs are regularly inspected to make sure they, and the crews, have all the safety stuff, certificated, and in my case the insurance wanted to see the cert, or no cover.
 

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This interests me: if you had a bowsprit, could you use it as a jeer, with a hinged mounting on deck, to provide leverage for lowering and hoisting a mast? The bowsprit would be hoisted upright as the mast is lowered, with a suitable tackle from mast to sprit and sprit to bow/forefoot.
Broads yachts of traditional design have their mast mounted in a tabernacle . most are conter balanced at the foot with lead, although some use a tackle running through the cabin .
This illustrates it well.
 

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Be a bit careful with this - I know someone who was hit at anchor in Chichester and deemed responsible by his ins Co.

Chichester Harbour Conservancy LNTM No 2 2020 specifically requires a ball to be displayed at anchor, Section 14, of this link:

https://www.conservancy.co.uk/page/no02-2020

I put the ball up when anchored, though I'm almost small enough not to need one in a recognised anchorage. Unless that collision was a lot more complex than someone not looking where they were going, that sounds like a company to avoid.
Exactly.
If your in a small boat somewhere like East Head, it can be quite difficult to tell a boat motoring in 2 knots of tide looking for somewhere to anchor, from one already anchored.
I get that. If you're racing a dinghy, you can plan to pass within inches of an anchored boat but if it suddenly alters course, it could really spoil your day. I've often been amazed how well most of the dinghies can judge the wind and tide to squeeze through the tiniest gaps there.
 

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Exactly.
If your in a small boat somewhere like East Head, it can be quite difficult to tell a boat motoring in 2 knots of tide looking for somewhere to anchor, from one already anchored.
Last time I was at East Head I ran aground whilst looking for a place to anchor. What would be the correct shape to display whilst trying to motor (at some revs) off the putty? Mainsail was up.
 

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I get that. If you're racing a dinghy, you can plan to pass within inches of an anchored boat but if it suddenly alters course, it could really spoil your day. I've often been amazed how well most of the dinghies can judge the wind and tide to squeeze through the tiniest gaps there.
It's the ones which suddenly stop in the water and go backwards on the tide while looking ahead which cause grey hairs.
It's not a big problem, but it's good to be able to quickly see who's anchored, so you can get back to looking all around and foreseeing potential issues elsewhere. Two black plastic circles is not much to ask really?
 

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Last time I was at East Head I ran aground whilst looking for a place to anchor. What would be the correct shape to display whilst trying to motor (at some revs) off the putty? Mainsail was up.
A navigator hanging from the rigging? :)
Generally want to be using the main to heel the boat and not playing with shapes or bunting.
 

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Last time I was at East Head I ran aground whilst looking for a place to anchor. What would be the correct shape to display whilst trying to motor (at some revs) off the putty? Mainsail was up.


I guess Ball over Diamond over Ball.

Easy to remember with an old mnemonic:

Day: your maneuvering will definitely be restricted by a spikey diamond between your balls!​
Night: diamond will shine brightly, while your poor nuts will be red by now.​

Apologies in advance!
 

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Fisherman asked "This interests me: if you had a bowsprit, could you use it as a jeer, with a hinged mounting on deck, to provide leverage for lowering and hoisting a mast? The bowsprit would be hoisted upright as the mast is lowered, with a suitable tackle from mast to sprit and sprit to bow/forefoot. "
People do exactly that, but using a spi-pole, or the main boom, or some other pole ; they often use their mainsheet as a purchase tackle. Problem is, as you lower away your shrouds slacken, so the masthead can start to wave about ; with consequences. The trad boats have weighted masts in tall tabernacles, see the video sent by Easticks28 if you've never seen one. It doesn't suit modern-style boats for too many reasons to go into here. Modern boats usually clutter their foredecks with tubular A-frames. I don't want that, even though they're much more stable than a pole. Anyway my mast's too long ("20ft overhanging" etc.) so I'm working on another scheme.
Your suggestion is feasible ; but I would not want a bowsprit which 'folds' unless it had been very carefully thought through, designed by someone with good rigging experience, and built by the same. The stresses on a bowsprit carrying a big jib and maybe also a flying jib over it, not to mention the pull from a main tops'l, must be huge. A bowsprit is there to support all that, not to act as a prop for mast lowering ! Horses for courses, etc..
Thanks anyway, and please keep the helpful ideas coming !
 

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I guess Ball over Diamond over Ball.
Not sure I'd agree with that - you'd not be restricted in your ability to manoeuvre due to the nature of your work.

If aground, it's three black balls in a vertical line. If you want to be really fancy/confusing, JH (I am aground; I am not in danger), or JG (I am aground; I am in a dangerous situation).

Once under way, you could consider flag Delta (Keep clear of me; I am manoeuvring with difficulty).

But, as Tern says, there may be more pressing demands on one's time.
 

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Not sure I'd agree with that - you'd not be restricted in your ability to manoeuvre due to the nature of your work.

If aground, it's three black balls in a vertical line. If you want to be really fancy/confusing, JH (I am aground; I am not in danger), or JG (I am aground; I am in a dangerous situation).

Once under way, you could consider flag Delta (Keep clear of me; I am manoeuvring with difficulty).

But, as Tern says, there may be more pressing demands on one's time.


All fair points.

Alternatively, Resolution - being the signal purist that he is :) - could go "JF12" (JF I am aground + lat/long if poss, "1" denoting a soft bottom, and "2" denoting forward, or I guess "3" denoting amidship if his keel hit first!)

Then it's time to welly the engine in reverse while the crew walk out along the boom ?
 
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