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Old Harry

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We have an 80+ yo neighbour, her grand-daughter husband & 2 kids are all sitting out in the garden ( 2m apart ) :sleep:, they have travelled 20 mls to visit, the vulnerable lady, youngest is about 4
They sadly,walk amongst us
 

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You don’t need to know how it works. You just need to do what you are told.
Ah Roger - I normally agree with your point of view - and I'm being very compliant, personally ...but my Mum always taught me not to do something just because someone said to - without understanding why. I think those who point out that it's not possible to issue a comprehensible instruction that allows for sensible interpretation have hit the nub of it. Look at how the police (from the opposite perspective) have massively mis-read the brief in some locations. So once again - it's not a case of not understanding the instruction - I just disagree with the blanket nature of it.
 

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Ah Roger - I normally agree with your point of view - and I'm being very compliant, personally ...but my Mum always taught me not to do something just because someone said to - without understanding why. I think those who point out that it's not possible to issue a comprehensible instruction that allows for sensible interpretation have hit the nub of it. Look at how the police (from the opposite perspective) have massively mis-read the brief in some locations. So once again - it's not a case of not understanding the instruction - I just disagree with the blanket nature of it.
The French Police seem to be in agreement with the travel ban
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Private jet carrying holidaymakers sent back to UK
A private jet carrying holidaymakers has been sent back to the UK by French police after those on board attempted to reach a villa in Cannes during the lockdown.
Ten people were declined entry into France after arriving at Marseille airport from London last Saturday, French news channel BFMTV reports.
There were reportedly three women aged 24 and 27 and seven men aged between 40 and 50 on board.
Those on board were of Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian nationality.
 

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It isn't a blanket ban.

The medical staff are still being allowed into the hospitals to look after the sick and injured, risking their lives in doing so. The shop staff, bus drivers, taxi drivers, food and pet food industry workers, the transport staff etc etc are all allowed to go to work, risking their health and lives in doing so, so we all have the essentials we need, like food.

There is a blanket ban on leisure activities though, so no sailing for anyone. But how can it be any other ?

Would it be OK for the guy that keeps his boat at the bottom of his garden, on his personal mooring, to go out ?

How about the guy that lives within walking distance, still OK ?

What about his mate, he only has to drive 5 miles ?

How about 15 miles ?

What about the guy that keeps his boat next to me, it's a three hour drive for him ? He might think it unfair if he's the only one excluded, just because of the three hour drive, he's a really careful driver and he won't stop and touch anyone on the way.

Maybe a round of golf would be OK, easy to keep 2mtrs apart on a golf course, surely ?

A game of tennis is obviously no problem, plenty of social distancing there.

The friends and family of the 8000+ dead from the virus probably don't feel like sailing anyway.

If anyone is feeling really bored because of the lockdown, there are plenty of volunteer jobs out there, get you out of the house, legitimately.
 

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Ah Roger - I normally agree with your point of view - and I'm being very compliant, personally ...but my Mum always taught me not to do something just because someone said to - without understanding why. I think those who point out that it's not possible to issue a comprehensible instruction that allows for sensible interpretation have hit the nub of it. Look at how the police (from the opposite perspective) have massively mis-read the brief in some locations. So once again - it's not a case of not understanding the instruction - I just disagree with the blanket nature of it.
Hi Simon long time no see. The word sensible is the weak point. Stay safe , I'm having a mild dose of it and it's horrible I'd hate to get a serious dose
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I was chatting (over the phone) with a local boatyard yesterday, a little one-man band specialising in wooden boats, operating out of an isolated barn on the North Norfolk coast. The police had spotted him working (presumably with a drone), and paid him a visit to shut him down. After he explained that the consequences of drying-out wooden boats in his care (many quite old and/or historic), the police have given him dispensation to re-launch the boats, and to monitor and maintain them on their moorings. However, he has to work alone, and the boats must not leave their moorings. Nobody else is allowed on the premises, even to work, let alone for pleasure.
 

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I was chatting (over the phone) with a local boatyard yesterday, a little one-man band specialising in wooden boats, operating out of an isolated barn on the North Norfolk coast. The police had spotted him working (presumably with a drone), and paid him a visit to shut him down. After he explained that the consequences of drying-out wooden boats in his care (many quite old and/or historic), the police have given him dispensation to re-launch the boats, and to monitor and maintain them on their moorings. However, he has to work alone, and the boats must not leave their moorings. Nobody else is allowed on the premises, even to work, let alone for pleasure.
It's not a case of the police giving him some kind of special dispensation, he isn't doing anything wrong or illegal. It's quite right that they should attend and investigate to establish the circumstances but he is permitted under the regulations to work, as are his employees should he have any. There is this misconception that work has to be essential, it doesn't.
 

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Well, it seems to be very widely-held misconception. The last day I was allowed to access a clients's boat was March 20th: I now have a backlog of half a dozen jobs where the boatyards / marinas have said that I cannot come on site until restrictions have been lifted. Suffolk Yacht Haven, Fosdyke Yacht Haven, Broadsedge Marina (Stalham) and NYA at Brundall have all stated they are operating on a skeleton staff, with no boat movements, chandleries and workshops shut, and no non-employees (owners or contractors) allowed on site.
 

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It's not so much that they are making their own rules, it's more to do with health and safety. There are a lot of businesses that have closed down, not because they are required to under the regulations, but because they cannot provide a "safe working environment" for their staff. In practice a lot of them probably could mitigate down to an acceptable level, but are they prepared to take that risk? There are also a lot of business closed down simply because they cannot operate without a certain number of staff and sufficient are "self isolating" for them not to be viable. In Doms example the Marinas have made the decision not to let any outside contractor on site probably because it's a way of safeguarding their staff who have to be there to look after the boats in their care.
 

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Apropos #30, according to my paper today, tennis is not permitted, since it is considered a social gathering, even with household members playing together.
 
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