jimmcgee
Active member
what is the argument here ? some fud in a sailing boat thinks he has way over a tanker ? get a grip!!!!!!!.
Yacht v red tanker
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Bosun Higgs
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Either way 20k fine is wildly excessive for an error of judgement that caused no injury. The woman who crossed the double whites whilst using her phone to knock me off my bike and crush my leg got £200
r_h
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As I understand it ABP, who own the port of Southampton, has launched an investigation, but as far as I know it has not yet concluded. This means that we should get the intelligent explanation that you'd like.
I guess there may have been a separate court action, but if so it's not been widely reported.
sighmoon
Active member
I hadn't seen that before. I find it pretty reassuring how well the yacht fared, all things considered.
Sandy
Well-known member
Thanks VicS it makes interesting viewing.
I'm not a racer, and very new to the forum, but to my eye there does appear to be a total loss of common sense. The good news is nobody got hurt.
photodog
Lord High Commander of Upper Broughton and Gunthor
I hadnt noticed before but you can see one guy jumping off the yacht well before it gets tangled up.....
fireball
New member
Ok - so he assumes the tanker is going to turn to port ...
(Based on the youtube video)
the yacht is STILL heading INTO the path of the tanker - had the tanker turned to port (swings the stern out to starboard) then they would've probably hit the (starboard) side of the vessel and in anycase would undoubtedly be within the exclusion zone.
RivalRedwing
Well-known member
Would suggest that it is your injury that is grossly undervalued.
londonpiper
Member
Interesting that one of the comments on the Youtube page was from a guy who said he was there in a rib and that the wind suddenly dropped to nothing. Unexpected and perhaps not the fault of the skipper?
VicS
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There were several discussions on the forums at the time.
The main two are
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283900
and http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282935
I'd not bank on always surviving a similar encounter. The Ouzo didnt!
sighmoon
Active member
Thanks for posting the links. I missed it first time round because I was sailing.
Lakesailor
New member
??? Not the fault of the skipper that the elements didn't save him from an obviously risky manoeuvre.
If I cross the path of a ferry on Windermere I am always mindful that the wind may drop or shift, and have a plan B.
With something that size there is no excuse whatsoever for getting it wrong. There may be reasons. But they are not excuses.
Seajet
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OUZO
That's more than a bit unfair on the crew of 'Ouzo', as it seems they were run down at night, a very different thing to arrogance / stupidity & playing chicken...
That's more than a bit unfair on the crew of 'Ouzo', as it seems they were run down at night, a very different thing to arrogance / stupidity & playing chicken...
Colvic Watson
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fireball
New member
A high sided supertanker can have that effect
Not really I wouldn't have thought - not with that wind direction and tanker speed ...
fireball
New member
anyone got any more straws? I think the skipper needs to clutch onto a few more !!
prv
Well-known member
The skipper was in the wrong the moment he was within 1km of the ship's bow (in the direction of travel). That's according to the local regulations, is well known, and I'm told is also incorporated into the racing rules there. Any suggestion like "X could have happened, preventing him getting out of the way" starts with him already being at fault by being in the way in the first place.
Pete
fireball
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The issue with that is that the area is 1km long by (just over) 200m wide - and a small change in course by the tanker will see that exclusion zone sweep a huge arc in front of it - in places it excludes areas the tanker cannot reach, but more importantly - just off Cowes it sweeps into the western solent where the tanker could reach - but is unlikely to go.
I am sure I've been in the official exclusion zone a few times - but outside the area that would cause an issue for the pilot or the escorts.
Talulah
Well-known member
I have links with someone who was on board at the time.
As a result I know a bit more about what went on just before the accident but can't readily add to this thread whilst the legals are still on going.
Searush
New member
Funny that innit, sail right under a huge great wall of steel & the wind dies away - who would expect that to happen?
