Will furling no3 jib work on hanks?

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I recently added a removable/Solent stay to my boat, and bought an at best ok 2nd hand Elvestrom sail to go with it. I do have a very nice Parker and Kay no3 jib that’s a furling sail. I recall reading that a furling sail is cut different to a Hank-on sail - does this difference make my plan unwise?
 

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Ask your sail maker cost of fitting hanks to help decide
personally I understand that furling sails are cut to suit using part rolled
 

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Yep, that’s what I thought. I wonder, however, if a furling no3 or working jib is not cut to be part-furled - it being a fairly low area sail to begin with.
 

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9x out of 10 on cruising boats - furling sails are not enough different to worry about.

Me ? I would buy a bag of piston hanks .... sew them on .... go enjoy. Be the envy of all around ;)

Think about this ... its not unusual for a boat to have a furler added and then remove hanks from sail - replace boltrope to suit furler ...
 
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I think a no. 3 would be cut pretty flat so less difference between hank-on and furler sails than for a big genoa with a lot of draft in it.
 

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i wouldn't worry about the difference in cut between a furling and non-furling sail.

many furling sails are not meant to be used partially furled - in my experience, it's mostly large genoas.

my only concern would be that the cloth making up the luff just behind the bolt rope is not strong enough to hold a hank - it wasn't built for that kind of point loading, so you may need some way of spreading the load, or just use more hanks.
 

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I second @Refueler. Buy some hanks, sew them on yourself, and see how it works. You have the sail so no great expenditure and I will be surprised if it does not do what you want.
 

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i wouldn't worry about the difference in cut between a furling and non-furling sail.

many furling sails are not meant to be used partially furled - in my experience, it's mostly large genoas.

my only concern would be that the cloth making up the luff just behind the bolt rope is not strong enough to hold a hank - it wasn't built for that kind of point loading, so you may need some way of spreading the load, or just use more hanks.

Sailmakers often sew a Tape along the luff ... but tbh - if the hanks are supported well by the boltrope ... it should be ok.
 
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i wouldn't worry about the difference in cut between a furling and non-furling sail.

many furling sails are not meant to be used partially furled - in my experience, it's mostly large genoas.

my only concern would be that the cloth making up the luff just behind the bolt rope is not strong enough to hold a hank - it wasn't built for that kind of point loading, so you may need some way of spreading the load, or just use more hanks.
Interesting question re strength of luff for attachment of piston hanks. Theoretically much of the load should be taken by the luff being tensioned very tight head to clew. Just a little load keeping the middle of the luff aligned to stay. Indeed stay will often go slack with luff tension. However I guess we can't be confident of always having good tension on halyard. I have never seen any failure of hanks to luff on my hank on jibs. Something like this https://www.whitworths.com.au/ronstan-piston-jib-hank-suits-8mm-wire But at that price (7 squid) and you needing 12 or more hanks you might look for s/h jib with hanks if only to recover the hanks.
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