Volvo Penta engines.

[Neeves]

Hmm, if you are going to say something then get it right otherwise your credibility goes? Some older VPs were built by VP.
Some were based on Peugeot, some were based on Japanese derived Perkins. Mine was based on a a BL/Perkins car engine. The latest lot are based on the Perkins 400 series, which is the latest small engine offering from Caterpillar/Perkins

My reply was based on the idea that most yachts built in the last 25 years with Volvo engines had MD20xx engines - it had not occurred to me that the OP was considering a yacht 30 years old (or older). Here many yachts, small yachts, 30 years old and older have the engines removed and replaced with O/B. You do not buy such yachts the owners are glad to be rid of them as they have sat in the water for 30 x 365 (no hardstand storage here). Looking at Wansworth immediately prior post - the engine is from 2002, which should make it a MD2020 as its 20hp - my post is accurate , any posts describing other engines are a waste of time.

Not everyone on this forum lives in the UK. Some people get their judgements right - must be difficult for you to stomach.

Having judged the OP as a man of taste and competence I did not make any wild guesses as to the exotic base engines Volvo have used in the last 50 years but made a measured judgement - which was correct. My competence is enhanced, other people look bit arrogant of their own abilities. .

A comment I might make - a lot of these engines have been removed and sit on shelves in workshops - making a source for, cheap?, parts.

Jonathan

 

[Beneteau381]

My reply was based on the idea that most yachts built in the last 25 years with Volvo engines had MD20xx engines - it had not occurred to me that the OP was considering a yacht 30 years old (or older). Here many yachts, small yachts, 30 years old and older have the engines removed and replaced with O/B. You do not buy such yachts the owners are glad to be rid of them as they have sat in the water for 30 x 365 (no hardstand storage here). Looking at Wansworth immediately prior post - the engine is from 2002, which should make it a MD2020 as its 20hp - my post is accurate , any posts describing other engines are a waste of time.

Not everyone on this forum lives in the UK. Some people get their judgements right - must be difficult for you to stomach.

Having judged the OP as a man of taste and competence I did not make any wild guesses as to the exotic base engines Volvo have used in the last 50 years but made a measured judgement - which was correct. My competence is enhanced, other people look bit arrogant of their own abilities. .

A comment I might make - a lot of these engines have been removed and sit on shelves in workshops - making a source for, cheap?, parts.

Jonathan

Stop digging, "If you follow his long trail of threads on NOT buying a boat he is looking at old sailing boats under 26'' and £10k which, if they do have an original Volvo inboard will be single or 2 cylinder engines of up to maybe 15hp. These are cast iron seawater cooled engines mostly of Volvo Penta own manufacture"

 

[Neeves]

Stop digging, "If you follow his long trail of threads on NOT buying a boat he is looking at old sailing boats under 26'' and £10k which, if they do have an original Volvo inboard will be single or 2 cylinder engines of up to maybe 15hp. These are cast iron seawater cooled engines mostly of Volvo Penta own manufacture"

I'm not digging - I read the posts.

Maybe you did not read post 22.

“Wandy”!

Whatever next!…..18.74hp from 2002…..but the boat a Furia 28 needing lots of work and over 9 metres so long term too expensive

Its a 20hp, 2002 engine - which should make it an MD2020 (but I may have that wrong ). The yacht is 9m

Jonathan

 

[Tranona]

“Wandy”!


Whatever next!…..18.74hp from 2002…..but the boat a Furia 28 needing lots of work and over 9 metres so long term too expensive

Slightly confusing as "2002" is a model type of Volvo engine 19hp which was made during the 1980s to a Volvo unique design which is very different from both the designs that preceded it and those that followed. Not a bad engine although most were seawater cooled and is still well supported in spares and service. If the engine was made in year 2002 then it is a MD 2020 which is very different kettle of fish. The base engine is Perkins.

This thread is a good example of a question that is unspecific leading to people (including me) making assumptions about what information is actually required and therefore going off in all sorts of unhelpful directions.

There is a generalisation though that all old small yacht diesels are becoming difficult to keep going because of the dwindling supply of spares. However once you get into the 1980s when engines started to be based on Japanese industrial units many of those issues disappear. Although there may be problems specific to individual models (usually related to the marinising parts) there is little to choose between the different brands in terms of costs and availability of spares and service.

 

[Wansworth]

Slightly confusing as "2002" is a model type of Volvo engine 19hp which was made during the 1980s to a Volvo unique design which is very different from both the designs that preceded it and those that followed. Not a bad engine although most were seawater cooled and is still well supported in spares and service. If the engine was made in year 2002 then it is a MD 2020 which is very different kettle of fish. The base engine is Perkins.

This thread is a good example of a question that is unspecific leading to people (including me) making assumptions about what information is actually required and therefore going off in all sorts of unhelpful directions.

There is a generalisation though that all old small yacht diesels are becoming difficult to keep going because of the dwindling supply of spares. However once you get into the 1980s when engines started to be based on Japanese industrial units many of those issues disappear. Although there may be problems specific to individual models (usually related to the marinising parts) there is little to choose between the different brands in terms of costs and availability of spares and service.

As op that was the only info given about the engine

 

[Neeves]

I assumed, from the wording, that the engine was 'from' 2002 - though I actually thought production of that specific design of yacht ceased earlier. I confess I did not clarify as I thought the information and wording to be accurate and if production of the yacht did cease earlier - that she was re-engined in 2002. I, like Tranona, am aware there was a Volvo engine 'MD ? 2002' and this was replaced by the MD2020, from the 90s ? until the new and current 'D1' series was introduced (the current equivalent model would be the D1-20).

For the future if you were buying - it would be important to define which (I appreciate that you will not be progressing - for other reasons). I appreciate if you are not familiar with Volvo engines (and your thread suggests you would welcome any background) you would have had no idea of possible confusion.

What ever the background I did not think it merited any supercilious comments. Its not about scoring points but about offering help.

Jonathan.

 

[ithet]

If it is an early '80s VP2002 with shaft drive then the gearbox splines might be of more concern than the engine itself. However, with a little bit of Google it seems that most Furias were not fitted with VP from new, so it might have been re-engined at some time.

 

[dunedin]

As op that was the only info given about the engine

In fact the OP #1 was spectacularly short of useful information - other than the title “Volvo Penta engines” all it offered was “Looking at a boat with one but somewhere I read they are not good and spares are expensive,any comments,many thanks.”
No age, model, year or anything, hence the confusion.

As ever, the more info the OP can provide the more useful the responses.

 

[capnsensible]

Only my opinion, but I've sailed loadsa yachts with volvo engines. I'm always just a bit happier when it's any other make.....

 

[Wansworth]

In fact the OP #1 was spectacularly short of useful information - other than the title “Volvo Penta engines” all it offered was “Looking at a boat with one but somewhere I read they are not good and spares are expensive,any comments,many thanks.”
No age, model, year or anything, hence the confusion.

As ever, the more info the OP can provide the more useful the responses.

Read number 24

 

[Frank Holden]

If it is this boat 1980 Furia 28 Daysailer for sale - YachtWorld it would probably be this engine FYB Marine. Volvo Penta MD7A, service and spare parts - if original.
Good engines in their day but you would probably have to factor in the cost of replacing it with a Beta or somesuch.

 

[Wansworth]

If it is this boat 1980 Furia 28 Daysailer for sale - YachtWorld it would probably be this engine FYB Marine. Volvo Penta MD7A, service and spare parts - if original.
Good engines in their day but you would probably have to factor in the cost of replacing it with a Beta or somesuch.

No it’s not that boat the oneIwas looking at isolderandcrappier?

 

[dunedin]

Read number 24

Confused? Post No. 24 was from Tranona.
But whatever you are referring to in post #24, the original post #1 was spectacularly uninformative

 

[Wansworth]

Confused? Post No. 24 was from Tranona.
But whatever you are referring to in post #24, the original post #1 was spectacularly uninformative

Yes your right I just fall back on the knowledgeableforum who seem to find anything?

 

[doug748]

If it is this boat 1980 Furia 28 Daysailer for sale - YachtWorld it would probably be this engine FYB Marine. Volvo Penta MD7A, service and spare parts - if original.
Good engines in their day but you would probably have to factor in the cost of replacing it with a Beta or somesuch.

Looks to me like the nicest boat Wansworth has not bought so far. ; -)

 

[Wansworth]

Looks to me like the nicest boat Wansworth has not bought so far. ; -)

That is funny?

 

[Wansworth]

Getting late in the year for sculling about off the coast here in Galicia maybe boat hunting will come to an end?

 

[dunedin]

Getting late in the year for sculling about off the coast here in Galicia maybe boat hunting will come to an end?

Or a good time to buy as prices soften. But leave any delivery trip to the spring?

 

[bitbaltic]

Looking at a boat with one but somewhere I read they are not good and spares are expensive,any comments,many thanks.

As with others not sure what this is supposed to imply. You’ve looked at and not bought loads of boats. Many boats of every age have Volvo penta engines. My own has a 2001 Penta 2020 which has been immaculately maintained by me and will be good for another 20 years. The condition of an inboard is critical to buying a boat in the sub-20k market but the manufacturer of the engine is no serious criteria for buying a boat that’s not over 40 years old.

 

[Wansworth]

As with others not sure what this is supposed to imply. You’ve looked at and not bought loads of boats. Many boats of every age have Volvo penta engines. My own has a 2001 Penta 2020 which has been immaculately maintained by me and will be good for another 20 years. The condition of an inboard is critical to buying a boat in the sub-20k market but the manufacturer of the engine is no serious criteria for buying a boat that’s not over 40 years old.

Such is the nature of looking at old boats with a limited budget and as a friend once saidinformation is key,not implying anything ,just asked for info.All the boats I have looked at all for one reason or another where discarded which is the price bracket I am in ,under 10,000 euros , covers a very small choice here in Galicia.