Surely you mean decade?I'd hope that the other partner is slightly more decisive or we'll be reading this thread during coming winter
cheers
V.
Surely you mean decade?
I'm polite and don't forget I started a six month rebuilt almost 5yrs ago, so not really the one to speak here
comeon Pete, show us that you can really do it!
I wasn't pushing before as he wanted a sportscuriser for the Med, but now that he's seen the f/b light I can start working
V.
I'm polite and don't forget I started a six month rebuilt almost 5yrs ago, so not really the one to speak here
comeon Pete, show us that you can really do it!
I wasn't pushing before as he wanted a sportscuriser for the Med, but now that he's seen the f/b light I can start working
V.
and follow up on absolutely everything , boat..... mallorca .... jody !!!! if only all brokers in the med where like him
I hope a few comments about shared ownership might be worthwhile. I have never shared a boat but I have been a member of two light aircraft groups. Shared ownership is very common in the UK light aircraft world. Pick up any issue of "Pilot" magazine and there will be lots of adverts from people selling shares. Here are my thoughts:
1. My favourite period of aircraft ownership was when I had my own plane, but that was because I was flying extended trips a long way from home. My wife and I personally wouldn't want to share our boat but that's because we want to keep moving to different places. For a boat that is going to be based in one place and make excursions of up to a fortnight I think shared ownership could work.
2. Personal relationships are vitally important. The two groups I belonged to were very careful to interview and seek references on new members. Joining was a bit like applying for a job or a house rental. Carelessly run groups who take anyone who has a PPL and the money to buy a share often founder.
3. Combination of 1 and 2: members have to share the same aspirations about how the boat is going to be used and the interview process must dig deep to make sure everyone truly agrees about this. As an aside I met some lovely people in the groups I belonged to. I don't see why people sharing a boat shouldn't become friends too.
4. Aircraft groups have a tried-and-tested method of dealing with money. They charge members an hourly rate using the Hobbs meter which covers expenses that build up by the hour, and may be "wet" (include fuel) or "dry" (fill the tank yourself after every booking). There is also a monthly charge which covers standing costs like hangarage/tie-down and insurance, but also (this is vital) includes contributions to what is usually called the "engine fund". For a boat group you could call this the "sinking fund"
5. You must have a written agreement. The Popular Flying Association used to publish a standard draft - perhaps their successors the Light Aircraft Association still do? But don't rely on lawyers to sort out any future problems, they will often make things worse not better. Include a provision for arbitration of any disputes by an experienced independent person with genuine current boating experience, a crystal-clear process for winding up the group including payment of on-going expenses while the boat is on the market, and make the agreement subject to English law.
There's a lot more I could say but this post is already too long. I think there's a lot of scope for shared boat ownership if it's done right. Perhaps the magazine could kick-start this by running an article and starting a classified ads section for boat shares?
Surely you mean decade?
It all depends on how much use individual members want to make of the boat. In a group with 3 regular users, each booking a week or long weekend every 6 weeks on average, you could easily accommodate a fourth member who only wanted the boat for a fortnight's holiday and a couple of long weekends each year. That would reduce the standing monthly charge per member from 33% of costs to 25%, quite a big reduction. One of the aircraft groups I was in had 4 members and that worked well, partly because the group organiser always tried to have a mix of employed, retired, and self-employed members. When I was in the group the 2 employed members had lots of weekend free time and annual holidays arranged in advance, the retired member was very flexible, and the self-employed member showed up once in a blue moon because they never had much free time at all.
In the Az39, there are a couple of large storage lockers under the main cabin mattress, I would think more suitable than the lazer, where you might want to store shared "toys", access to batteries, keep cleaning stuff/tool kit etc. Possibly the same in the Fairline, but I have no knowledge of the layout.