chuckaduck
Active member
Just picked this up news article
Interesting is what the pla say they do
I have seen very little
what do you think ?
Interesting is what the pla say they do
I have seen very little
what do you think ?
THE PLA ARE AT IT NOW !!
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boatone
Well-known member
Interesting article about Eel Pie Island HERE.
They quote no figures so we dont know what the level of charges or increase is.
However, much like the non tidal Thames, there are many users and 'enjoyers' of the river but its easy to demand income from recognised and easily targetted groups. Who decides on what proportion or charge should be levied? Clearly such income is the result of an arbitrary decision that can have no accuracy in terms of a proportion of the total costs involved. Its much ,more a case of 'We can identify these people, demonstrate that they have a clear benefit/association from/with the river therefore we will demand they pay £xxx.
If any of these 'user' groups did not exist the maintenance costs of the river would continue to be necessary - is anyone going to tell me that the river would be allowed to rot if there were no boats on it? The Thames is a national asset and needs national funding. People who visit the river enjoy watching the boats but pay no contribution except via taxes which we also pay.
Suspect this argument wiill never go away.
They quote no figures so we dont know what the level of charges or increase is.
However, much like the non tidal Thames, there are many users and 'enjoyers' of the river but its easy to demand income from recognised and easily targetted groups. Who decides on what proportion or charge should be levied? Clearly such income is the result of an arbitrary decision that can have no accuracy in terms of a proportion of the total costs involved. Its much ,more a case of 'We can identify these people, demonstrate that they have a clear benefit/association from/with the river therefore we will demand they pay £xxx.
If any of these 'user' groups did not exist the maintenance costs of the river would continue to be necessary - is anyone going to tell me that the river would be allowed to rot if there were no boats on it? The Thames is a national asset and needs national funding. People who visit the river enjoy watching the boats but pay no contribution except via taxes which we also pay.
Suspect this argument wiill never go away.
byron
RIP
Ducking and running for cover as I say this....
The PLA is fully entitled to get more money from people enjoying the expensive facilities they maintain. The PLA is in my eyes an efficiently run self financing organisation, why should only commercial users pay?
There again, being a radical, I wonder why pleasure boaters get to use the bouyage system throughout the British Isles yet pay nothing in Light Dues.
The PLA is fully entitled to get more money from people enjoying the expensive facilities they maintain. The PLA is in my eyes an efficiently run self financing organisation, why should only commercial users pay?
There again, being a radical, I wonder why pleasure boaters get to use the bouyage system throughout the British Isles yet pay nothing in Light Dues.
boatone
Well-known member
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I wonder why pleasure boaters get to use the bouyage system throughout the British Isles yet pay nothing in Light Dues.
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No licence required to keep a pleasure craft below Teddington, either.
I wonder why pleasure boaters get to use the bouyage system throughout the British Isles yet pay nothing in Light Dues.
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No licence required to keep a pleasure craft below Teddington, either.
Bilgediver
Well-known member
There again, being a radical, I wonder why pleasure boaters get to use the bouyage system throughout the British Isles yet pay nothing in Light Dues.
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Don t remind them or they will clobber us with this as well as the costs for using the radio spectrum for our radars and VHF..
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Don t remind them or they will clobber us with this as well as the costs for using the radio spectrum for our radars and VHF..
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savageseadog
Well-known member
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There again, being a radical, I wonder why pleasure boaters get to use the bouyage system throughout the British Isles yet pay nothing in Light Dues.
[/ QUOTE ]Firstly pleasure boaters pay a colossal amount of tax as a proportion of their boating expenditure. Secondly the expenditure is at least in the UK instead of being spend abroad. Thirdly a great deal if not all buoyage is totally unnecessary for pleasure boats.
There again, being a radical, I wonder why pleasure boaters get to use the bouyage system throughout the British Isles yet pay nothing in Light Dues.
[/ QUOTE ]Firstly pleasure boaters pay a colossal amount of tax as a proportion of their boating expenditure. Secondly the expenditure is at least in the UK instead of being spend abroad. Thirdly a great deal if not all buoyage is totally unnecessary for pleasure boats.
kds
New member
"yet pay nothing in Light Dues"
How did you manage that ?
The rest of us pay taxes - we are a maritime nation - what should it be spent on - airports ??
Ken
How did you manage that ?
The rest of us pay taxes - we are a maritime nation - what should it be spent on - airports ??
Ken
boatone
Well-known member
Think you should be aiming your response at Byron.......'twas him what said it, not me /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Channel Ribs
New member
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...we are a maritime nation...
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*place tongue in cheek*
And there was me thinking that the English channel was just an inland waterway (under French control) of the European state!
*remove tongue from cheek*
...we are a maritime nation...
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*place tongue in cheek*
And there was me thinking that the English channel was just an inland waterway (under French control) of the European state!
*remove tongue from cheek*
oldgit
Well-known member
Don t remind them or they will clobber us with this as well as the costs for using the radio spectrum for our radars and VHF..
If you are paying for a VHF radio licence you are doing something wrong
If you are paying for a VHF radio licence you are doing something wrong
