Tally Ho's capstan

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I have wondered for some time how Tally Ho is going to be supported / managed once she is sailing... some form of trustee structure or is Leo planning to keep it 'private' and raise the upkeep monies as required? maybe he has covered it and I have missed it..
I seem to remember him talking in the past about some kind of trust/charity based program - giving youngsters opportunity to sail etc.
 

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On another channel they have just launched a boat called Yabba……..just looking at the empty cans of anti foul give an idea how much big boat cost to maintain whether maintenance cost can be absorbed by patrons or some kind of business needs to be established
 

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I for one have enjoyed following Tally Ho from the beginning. I would guess that as the project got more popular, the possibilities for improving the rebuild/new build (don't think it matters in this case) became obvious. Good for Leo using the benefits of YouTube/Patreon to finance the work.
So, the project will have progressed from volunteers to paid staff. Again, good for Leo providing some local employment. Wages would have swallowed most of the money perhaps? I can't find any reason to begrudge someone spending the money with local craftsmen/women and suppliers.
So, Leo will end up with a very nice boat but with high maintenance costs in the future, and will no doubt need to rely on some form of funding to continue using Tally Ho. How he does that is obviously up to him, but as long as he provides good quality entertainment, people will be happy to subsidise him.
Should he have gone for such a high spec fit out? Well, why not if funds permit there is a certain pleasure watching all the good stuff go in to the boat. Good luck to him from me.
 

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I for one have enjoyed following Tally Ho from the beginning. I would guess that as the project got more popular, the possibilities for improving the rebuild/new build (don't think it matters in this case) became obvious. Good for Leo using the benefits of YouTube/Patreon to finance the work.
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I too have followed the series from the beginning and contributed in a small way. I loved Leo's craftmanship, and when the paid employees slowly took over I enjoyed their craftsmanship too. I think that Leo is a remarkable young man, who took on a huge project with trepidation, but had the skill and commitment to see it through, with - a lot of help from friends - as he himself says.
I may be wrong, but I don't see Leo as someone who sees Tally Ho as 'his' boat, and he will put it to a some beneficial use that will resonate well with the contributors who funded it?
As to the new/restoration/rebuild debate, some important parts of the original were used. Yes, not a lot, but I am mindful of the thoughts that Joshua Slocum had regarding 'where the old Spray disappeared, and the New Spray took over'?
 

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As to the new/restoration/rebuild debate, some important parts of the original were used. Yes, not a lot, but I am mindful of the thoughts that Joshua Slocum had regarding 'where the old Spray disappeared, and the New Spray took over'?
I apologise for the upcoming pornography.

I think the only part of the original which was used was the upper half of the transom. Rotten bits where removed and what was left was used in the lower half of the "new" transom. Everything else in the boat is new.

This kind of thing has been done before for instance:-

Mascotte. Nothing of the original remains, but is still considered a rebuild.

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Same here for Cornubia:-

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Personally I don't see the point.
In any case, they have added engines, batteries electrics, synthetic sails, synthetic ropes, black water tanks, calorifiers, .....

So a lot of new stuff which was not there in the original. So it cannot be considered a restoration.

IMHO, if you are going with the modern equipment, you might as well build a new boat from scratch. Using the original plans or lines if you wish or using a completely new design and set of plans as in this boat:-





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Which is the Stad Amsterdam.
 

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I don't think Leo thought that it was going to be as extensive as it was, it became apparent as they started to strip off the planking just how little of the old Tally Ho would be conserved and the biggest part is the lead keel the rest is really only window dressing.
I have followed the rebuild of the capstan and that is going to be about 70% new, I hope he actually appreciates the work and engineering that have gone into the casting and machining of it because he could have bought something for a lot less than it will have cost if he is paying for it.
 

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Does it really matter whether it’s a restoration or new boat? Is it not only a romanticism that this bit of timber was sailing in 1930 or some other such thought? Adopting modern technology in a sympathetic manner seems the only logical thing to do surely? Why would anyone put inferior old tec products in a new/rebuild? If Nelson had had the choice of HMS Victory or HMS QEII when approaching the combined enemy fleet in 1805 I imagine he’d have gone with HMS QEII. (Yes that’s a silly analogy, apologies, but it makes the point).
 

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Does it really matter whether it’s a restoration or new boat? Is it not only a romanticism that this bit of timber was sailing in 1930 or some other such thought? Adopting modern technology in a sympathetic manner seems the only logical thing to do surely? Why would anyone put inferior old tec products in a new/rebuild? If Nelson had had the choice of HMS Victory or HMS QEII when approaching the combined enemy fleet in 1805 I imagine he’d have gone with HMS QEII. (Yes that’s a silly analogy, apologies, but it makes the point).
I think an interesting question to ask Leo would be did he envisage the yacht ending up as it is
 

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Tally Ho was built from the original lines plan that Leo lofted out……..Reducing the original TallyHotoliftable bits made the project longer and to no value.There are several groups doing the same thing they should learn from Leo……….but I guess there is something else involved in the way we see things
 

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Something definitely got into my eye when the camera cut to Leo with his arm around Raoul’s shoulders as Tally Ho was launched.

As to originality, a parallel from the equine world. My mother once had a carriage restored. When we first saw it it was a few sticks of firewood. When it was fully restored it was beautiful, but more than that, there was an undefinable something that made it more special, maybe it had more soul, than a new-build.
 

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I suspect one day we will get the chance to see Tally Ho, somewhere some place. She is just breathtaking to look at. Its just unbelievable to think Leo has managed to achieve such a feat with such a short time in the industry. I am not sure he could have done anything to improve on the rebuild. This was alll done away from home, The book will make a truly awesome read if and when he decides to write one.

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