Squadron 78 For Sale

[jfm]

Thanks again for the kind words. I'll try to document the SL build on here on a new thread. Lots to do first though, including getting SL to agree to the publicity/pics etc. I'm visiting factory in Italy mid October.

I'll also write more about the boat choice - there are plenty to choose from in this "5 cabins, planing, and as big as poss while keeping under 24m LLL/LH" category. Includes in no particular order Princess X/Y95, Sunseeker 95/100, Pearl 95, Riva Argo/Corsaro, Ferretti 920/1000, Asia stuff like Horizon, Dominator illumen (sp?), Van der Walk, Dreamline, Hatteras, Johnson, several Azimuts, Lazzara, etc

Sale process of the Sq78 is progressing - some viewings being arranged I think. Brokers handling all that.

I'm also working on a chase boat. I'll post info/pictures on that too when confirmed, on a new thread.

 

[markc]

Thanks again for the kind words. I'll try to document the SL build on here on a new thread. Lots to do first though, including getting SL to agree to the publicity/pics etc. I'm visiting factory in Italy mid October.

I'll also write more about the boat choice - there are plenty to choose from in this "5 cabins, planing, and as big as poss while keeping under 24m LLL/LH" category. Includes in no particular order Princess X/Y95, Sunseeker 95/100, Pearl 95, Riva Argo/Corsaro, Ferretti 920/1000, Asia stuff like Horizon, Dominator illumen (sp?), Van der Walk, Dreamline, Hatteras, Johnson, several Azimuts, Lazzara, etc

Sale process of the Sq78 is progressing - some viewings being arranged I think. Brokers handling all that.

I'm also working on a chase boat. I'll post info/pictures on that too when confirmed, on a new thread.

Can't wait!

 

[jfm]

Ah, so you pulled the trigger on a Sanlorenzo

Knowing you hadn't ordered a Princess I was going to have a tenner on SL in the forum sweepstake but you beat me to it.

Lots of planning no doubt. Hopefully the factory are bracing themselves. No stone left unturned.....


I shall keep my eyes open, still remember opening night in Swanwick all those years ago. I've never actually stepped aboard a SL but they look interesting. I see Hard 8 on her travels - walked past her on the pontoon whilst doing a charter out of Lymington last week.

All the best.

Henry

Thanks Henry
Looking forward to info/pictures on your new machine - must be arriving soon (?)

 

[47GC]

I'm also working on a chase boat.

OMG.. two build threads!! JFM, we haven’t met but we both know JB and I always mention your boat when we speak, in fact I was on your squadron in Cannes a few years back. Good luck with the SL.

 

[colhel]

Have you sat in the helm seat yet and pretended to drive it? I do this with every potential purchase, but best to do when no-ones looking. ( I put Match 2 through the same gruelling test but unfortunately other factors halted the purchase) ?

 

[tico]

Brilliant! looking forward to not one but two build threads similar to M2.
Welcome back, we've missed you.

 

[henryf]

Thanks Henry
Looking forward to info/pictures on your new machine - must be arriving soon (?)

We got news of the hull completion last week so will be making our first factory visit to see our boat in October. Will update thread on here accordingly. I’ve been extremely tame in comparison re: spec. The only possibly controversial choice was to ditch the crew cabin in favour of proper storage but I’ll talk about that in the thread.

In terms of a chase boat, I’ve always had a soft spot for the Dutchcraft. Big back deck, surprisingly cavernous accommodation to spare crew space on the mother ship and a big day area if you wanted to go off to a small beach with some friends or go on a foraging mission. Saw them at Cannes a few years ago.

As you rightly say lots of choice around your size. Horizon have great crew cabin / beach club, I prefer the X80 to the X95. Look forward to your analytical mind and eye for detail in the thought process.


Henry

 

[dankilb]

I wonder whether there might be a case for keeping ‘high profile’ build threads locked to replies, apart from the OP? A separate discussion thread could run in parallel. That could a) reduce the length/concentrate the content, b) prevent OPs becoming bogged down in discussion if/when they don’t have time or inclination, c) avoid putting off our most interesting posters if/when discussions turn sour.

I know this is first and foremost a discussion forum, but there’s such a valuable and rare element of ‘citizen journalism’ in something like an epic build/project/trip thread that - if it means we get these threads as opposed to not - might make it worthwhile to lock down the parameters somewhat??

 

[benjenbav]

I wonder whether there might be a case for keeping ‘high profile’ build threads locked to replies, apart from the OP? A separate discussion thread could run in parallel. That could a) reduce the length/concentrate the content, b) prevent OPs becoming bogged down in discussion if/when they don’t have time or inclination, c) avoid putting off our most interesting posters if/when discussions turn sour.

I know this is first and foremost a discussion forum, but there’s such a valuable and rare element of ‘citizen journalism’ in something like an epic build/project/trip thread that - if it means we get these threads as opposed to not - might make it worthwhile to lock down the parameters somewhat??

I think that’s a great idea. ?

 

[dunedin]

I wonder whether there might be a case for keeping ‘high profile’ build threads locked to replies, apart from the OP? A separate discussion thread could run in parallel. That could a) reduce the length/concentrate the content, b) prevent OPs becoming bogged down in discussion if/when they don’t have time or inclination, c) avoid putting off our most interesting posters if/when discussions turn sour.

I know this is first and foremost a discussion forum, but there’s such a valuable and rare element of ‘citizen journalism’ in something like an epic build/project/trip thread that - if it means we get these threads as opposed to not - might make it worthwhile to lock down the parameters somewhat??

There is a mechanism for that sort of thing - it is a blog on a private site. Just provide a one off link and people can follow the blog.

A Forum by contrast is all about two way dialogue. People can ask questions, and discuss things. That’s what a forum does. And it reflects different views (hopefully politely).

But if JFM wants to go down this route it would be easy enough. Just start a discussion topic and include a link to a build blog in post #1. Then the blog is built up over time with what the new owner chooses to post - and can be taken down when and if he/she chooses.
Meanwhile the debate is on the forum.

 

[alt]

JFM - Great to hear from you and delighted you will (hopefully) grace us with another build thread.

 

[Hurricane]

We got news of the hull completion last week so will be making our first factory visit to see our boat in October. Will update thread on here accordingly. I’ve been extremely tame in comparison re: spec. The only possibly controversial choice was to ditch the crew cabin in favour of proper storage but I’ll talk about that in the thread.

In terms of a chase boat, I’ve always had a soft spot for the Dutchcraft. Big back deck, surprisingly cavernous accommodation to spare crew space on the mother ship and a big day area if you wanted to go off to a small beach with some friends or go on a foraging mission. Saw them at Cannes a few years ago.

As you rightly say lots of choice around your size. Horizon have great crew cabin / beach club, I prefer the X80 to the X95. Look forward to your analytical mind and eye for detail in the thought process.


Henry

Henry
Is it too late to get Princess to use Butyl Rubber hoses for the toilet wastes.
I guess they are using quality toilets (Tecma/Planus quality) but our boat has significantly changed since changing to the Butyl Rubber hoses.
I'm sure JFM would agree that those cheap PVC ones are carp (excuse the pun.
All smells have gone away since changing.
If I were ordering from Princess, I would, at least, make a fuss about the cheap hoses.

 

[TonyR123]

went on a SL78 (I think) last year at SBS. Quality and attention to detail is second to none!

 

[henryf]

Henry
Is it too late to get Princess to use Butyl Rubber hoses for the toilet wastes.
I guess they are using quality toilets (Tecma/Planus quality) but our boat has significantly changed since changing to the Butyl Rubber hoses.
I'm sure JFM would agree that those cheap PVC ones are carp (excuse the pun.
All smells have gone away since changing.
If I were ordering from Princess, I would, at least, make a fuss about the cheap hoses.

The current P50 has lovely freshwater toilets, I think Dometic that have performed gloriously with no smells or other ailments. I’m loath to specify alternatives to the Princess build for fear of it biting me in the bum should a warranty claim be necessary. We’ve ensured ongoing support from Princess upon the F55’s arrival. Swanwick have always been very fair with us and Peter Harwood is legendary in terms of commitment and knowledge.

 

[Hurricane]

The current P50 has lovely freshwater toilets, I think Dometic that have performed gloriously with no smells or other ailments. I’m loath to specify alternatives to the Princess build for fear of it biting me in the bum should a warranty claim be necessary. We’ve ensured ongoing support from Princess upon the F55’s arrival. Swanwick have always been very fair with us and Peter Harwood is legendary in terms of commitment and knowledge.

Agreed ---- but those pvc pipes are rubbish.
I know what you mean - but YOU are the customer - get the best - I didn't and regretted it.

 

[henryf]

Agreed ---- but those pvc pipes are rubbish.
I know what you mean - but YOU are the customer - get the best - I didn't and regretted it.

I shall mention it when at the factory. What actually went wrong with your pipes?

 

[Hurricane]

I shall mention it when at the factory. What actually went wrong with your pipes?

Nothing went wrong with them but after a couple of years, they don't hold the smell back.
It is a known fact that they become smelly.
Knowing how the Princess factory works, if they are still using the PVC tubes, you won't get any joy asking them to change them to Butyl Rubber.
Princess is a quality product. It just seems a shame that they spoil it for "3 halfpence of tar".
A few quid extra for some decent hoses would make a big difference.

 

[Bouba]

Does anyone have a source for Butyl Rubber hoses?

 

[Hurricane]

ASAP Supplies
Here
Sanitation Hose and Waste Water Hose

 

[jfm]

Henry
Is it too late to get Princess to use Butyl Rubber hoses for the toilet wastes.
I guess they are using quality toilets (Tecma/Planus quality) but our boat has significantly changed since changing to the Butyl Rubber hoses.
I'm sure JFM would agree that those cheap PVC ones are carp (excuse the pun.
All smells have gone away since changing.
If I were ordering from Princess, I would, at least, make a fuss about the cheap hoses.

1000% agreed. Always spec the butyl lined hoses. The white PVC is very inferior. There are two Italian manufacturers of butyl lined hose and they are also white-labelled and sold under the Vetus brand. Easiest source in Uk is Asap supplies.