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What do we imagine the procedure will be to sail an English registered boat in newly independent Scotland?

What about prolonged visits to the territory?
 
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What do we imagine the procedure will be to sail an English registered boat in newly independent Scotland?

What about prolonged visits to the territory?

Open border is the plan based on current proposals for land border transits by rUK citizens so you are likely to have a right to sail your boat from rUK and keep your boat here without restriction. Of course, that may all change as nothing is exactly bona fide regarding independence. Is there a probability of customs/immigration clearance, entry tax, fuel tax, compulsory registration, VAT/import tax; yes there is but it's not been talked about as far as I know. I guess you will just have to wait and see and like the rest of us. I doubt that you will have to apply for a visa though. I can easily imagine a day when yachts will face compulsory registration for licence fee collection.
 

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I suppose that if an independent Scotland was delayed in being accepted into the EU by a number of years, any vessel UK registered vessel that was based there may lose its VAT paid status after a time unless it made a quick trip across to NI or back to England
 

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Pages 2063-2072 of the Independence White Paper covers this. There will be a tourist tax for all non-EC boats - that'll include the rUK after the in/out referendum that call-me-Dave has promised - and also a marina tax particularly on nuclear powered boats but will cover yachts as well.
 

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This thread has got me wondering how a yes vote is likely to effect us.
We are English but our liveaboard yacht is registered in Glasgow.
Guess we will have to do a Standard Life & re-register to an English port.
 

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I always thought Scotland was already in the EU. Will England get booted out of the EU if Scotland votes for partition? Dont think so! Whats all this nonsense?

It's a moot point. Alec Salmond says of course it will be a member of the EU; The head of the European Commission says it can't be taken for granted and that the process may take years. The main problem seems to be that other states with nationalist areas (e.g. Spain with the Basque and Catalan areas) might well block the entry of Scotland because they don't want to encourage nationalist sentiment in their own countries. There is the other issue that new members of the EU are supposed to adopt the Euro, which the SNP has said they don't want to do.

If Scotland votes for independence, there would almost certainly be a period of some years when it was NOT in the EU.

The rest of the UK remains the UK, and its membership is not in question (unless we vote against it in a future referendum).
 

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It's a moot point. Alec Salmond says of course it will be a member of the EU; The head of the European Commission says it can't be taken for granted and that the process may take years. The main problem seems to be that other states with nationalist areas (e.g. Spain with the Basque and Catalan areas) might well block the entry of Scotland because they don't want to encourage nationalist sentiment in their own countries. There is the other issue that new members of the EU are supposed to adopt the Euro, which the SNP has said they don't want to do.

If Scotland votes for independence, there would almost certainly be a period of some years when it was NOT in the EU.

The rest of the UK remains the UK, and its membership is not in question (unless we vote against it in a future referendum).

On the other hand Spain depends greatly on being able to fish in Scots waters and the Gourmets of Madrid greatly enjoy Scots seafood, perhaps they may not be quite as anti as some would suggest
 

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Well now, Scotland isnt a Nationalist "Area". Its a Country! It Is a member of the EU and a simple uncoupling from the rest of the UK wont make any difference to that. Just because Jose says it's so, doesnt necessarily mean that he's wrong... but on this occasion???!!! There is no way on Earth that the EU would stand for a Scotland outside their influence.

This suggestion is not even making the news here in Ireland so its clearly not seen as a worthy point of discussion. Smells a bit like a desperate attempt to influence/bully people who may want to vote for uncoupling but might be worried about imagined consequences. If in doubt, muddy the clear waters!
 
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Ye widnae waant tae sail in Scotland, it's fou ae Scots. Honest... ye'll be faur better aff in the Solent.

Too true you are, if I understand the imitation mangled English correctly. No sparrow sized midges, occasional sunshine and dry weather, even a bit of warmth. And the natives are friendly down south.
 

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Well now, Scotland isnt a Nationalist "Area". Its a Country! It Is a member of the EU and a simple uncoupling from the rest of the UK wont make any difference to that. Just because Jose says it's so, doesnt necessarily mean that he's wrong... but on this occasion???!!! There is no way on Earth that the EU would stand for a Scotland outside their influence.

You are quite wrong there. Scotland isnt a member of the EU. Neither is England or Wales. The member is the UK. And Scotland isnt a country either, any more than England or Wales - the country is the UK and out nationality is British. After a yes vote in the referendum and after the subsequent Westminster laws are passed, the situation will be different. Who knows what the various members of the EU might say. I woulk hope they accept Scotland but there is no guarantee when you lokk at what the likes of Greece and Spain have done in other accession cases. Lets hope common sense prevails.
 

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More concerning will I have trouble bringing my boat from Scotland back into the EU and will VAT be an issue.

The list of potential issues is endless

Its getting a bit ludicrous,

Personally i hope it doesn't happen as it doesn't make sense to me. ! guess we'll have to wait and see
 
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