Giblets
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Which they still do in the first instance.
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Which they still do in the first instance.
awol
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Perhaps if you took the bother to perform even a modicum of research - googling "RNLI Tanzania" for example - you would find that the RNLI are aiming at the huge numbers of drownings and are not at all gender specific in their programmes.
Seajet
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So have the RNLI taken it upon themselves to dish out Foreign Aid or are they being subsidised bt Tanzanian or UK Govt, as this is way beyond what the people who gave them this money intended them to do with it - which is the crux of the matter.
Jumbleduck, insisting women cover up is male oppression is it not ?
How do they get on for driving and jobs then, if so well read, which I'm afraid I rather doubt.
Anyway the point is nobody expected the RNLI to do this with their money, it is not what they intended or I'm bloody sure would wish.
Jumbleduck, insisting women cover up is male oppression is it not ?
How do they get on for driving and jobs then, if so well read, which I'm afraid I rather doubt.
Anyway the point is nobody expected the RNLI to do this with their money, it is not what they intended or I'm bloody sure would wish.
awol
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Try reading https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...fesaving-training-to-tackle-drowning-epidemic - absolutely NOT the latest news but might give an idea of the problem.
DownWest
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One gets back to wondering why relatively well off African Countries need help in this?
awol
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DownWest
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That is depressing, but typical of missmanaged countries in Africa. I had thought it was better in Tanzania.
dunedin
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Are you a member of RNLI? If so you might have read about their overseas programmes, and the reasons why.
Not sure why you can say “nobody expected the RNLI to do this”, as you certainly don’t speak for me, or the thousands of other members who read the articles and didn’t write to object.
Blue Sunray
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Which of course is why (and I know I've said it before ) The strapline is "The charity that saves lives at sea" not "A free towing service for the mechanically challenged middle classes".
Seajet
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I WAS a ' member ' as in donator, but became disenchanted when I heard of teams of lawyers chasing old widows' wills.
The thousands who didn't object seems to me thousands more of posters and bumph sent but not read, I am pretty sure not advertising this diversement of funds which people simply did not commit to.
You can dress it up all you want as overseas help or racism, the fact is people who donate to lifeboats do not expect THEIR funds to go on an overseas aid project way outside the scope one would expect when signing a debit or putting a few quid in.
It is entirely inappropriate and should be a Govenrment thing - if they wish to enlist the RNLI as a sort of 2nd -rd rate United Nations then they should advertise they are doing so.
I also wonder about the safety of the actual staff / representatives doing this as I said earlier.
Is the next step plonking a big gun on the front of lifeboats and defending our tankers in the Staits Of Hormuz ?
That ' might save lives ' too.
The thousands who didn't object seems to me thousands more of posters and bumph sent but not read, I am pretty sure not advertising this diversement of funds which people simply did not commit to.
You can dress it up all you want as overseas help or racism, the fact is people who donate to lifeboats do not expect THEIR funds to go on an overseas aid project way outside the scope one would expect when signing a debit or putting a few quid in.
It is entirely inappropriate and should be a Govenrment thing - if they wish to enlist the RNLI as a sort of 2nd -rd rate United Nations then they should advertise they are doing so.
I also wonder about the safety of the actual staff / representatives doing this as I said earlier.
Is the next step plonking a big gun on the front of lifeboats and defending our tankers in the Staits Of Hormuz ?
That ' might save lives ' too.
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Blue Sunray
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This is going to be a very short thread if you expect postings to be based on facts.
Seajet
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It's probably going to be a long, I hope significant thread, perhaps most significant since BORG fighting for Studland.
I know Jumbleduck slightly from tv and e-mails and admire him and his taste in boats enormously, but I have to say in a kindly way I think his altruistic thinking is awry on this one - the wrong people to give it both personally and company / indeed nation wise, may not be received kindly and a very wrong idea from all perspectives, I hope this does not go too badly as in ' RNLI bod killed by Taliban ' - absurd but that's what they're getting into, no more ' put a penny in the slot to make the lifeboat launch ' in collection boxes in pubs...
I know Jumbleduck slightly from tv and e-mails and admire him and his taste in boats enormously, but I have to say in a kindly way I think his altruistic thinking is awry on this one - the wrong people to give it both personally and company / indeed nation wise, may not be received kindly and a very wrong idea from all perspectives, I hope this does not go too badly as in ' RNLI bod killed by Taliban ' - absurd but that's what they're getting into, no more ' put a penny in the slot to make the lifeboat launch ' in collection boxes in pubs...
LONG_KEELER
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Seajet
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I'm happy to accept Jumbleducks' bet that the vast majority of donators to the RNLI are
A, unaware of this overseas aid,
B unhappy about it when they learn of it.
How do we prove it one way or another though ? The RNLI would say ' everything's spiffing ' if a huge asteroid was aiming for Poole
A, unaware of this overseas aid,
B unhappy about it when they learn of it.
How do we prove it one way or another though ? The RNLI would say ' everything's spiffing ' if a huge asteroid was aiming for Poole
Dutch01527
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Is there a management crisis at the RNLI? They seem to be lurching from one bad decision to another with resultant disastrous PR consequences.
I have donated over 30 years to support their volunteers who I admire massively. It would be a real shame if their management lost the good will these brave men and women richly deserve.
It is not racist or sexist to question overseas expenditures or the sacking of volunteers for a naughty mug in a cupboard. I suspect that most donations come from people who would ask such questions.
I have donated over 30 years to support their volunteers who I admire massively. It would be a real shame if their management lost the good will these brave men and women richly deserve.
It is not racist or sexist to question overseas expenditures or the sacking of volunteers for a naughty mug in a cupboard. I suspect that most donations come from people who would ask such questions.
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Poecheng
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Ensure the collection tins and boats eatc are completely covered in black cloth but with just a small slit for the money slot
Poecheng
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Had a look at that. My only observation is - and it is not the RNLI's fault - why is it on a government website about overseas development. The RNLI is independant and (should) not be acting in coordination with the Overseas Aid department of government; if it is acting independent of government, why are the government writing about it as if to take credit for it. Happy to accept I have misunderstood the situation but little surprised at it.
JumbleDuck
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And women choosing to cover up is freedom, is it not?
JumbleDuck
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How do you know?
JumbleDuck
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As I wrote, I think it is quite OK to think that the RNLI should not spend money abroad. I just think that objecting to them spending money on Muslims is a bit ... iffy.