Re: Steve 101

[Mr Cassandra]

Re: Gentle reminder...

Hello Kim
I know that you have a job to do and in fact i belive you are fare. [ I do wish that you would have let me get on with the freindly fire with Mr S C though]
However I do belive a lot of people posting here are in envy of quite a few .
how can anyone belive that some 27ft this and that ,with longish keel types of boat are better than the new designs,if they could afford better they would do so . They are all arguing off the back foot ,IMHO ,lots of them were jealous of people like Steve who apeared to be succesfulI ,I do not care that he now posts on BYM the best thing that hapered to me was giving two fingers to Nige c they then stoped sending me e-mail of the rubbish they produced . in all I belive this is a very good forum managed to a high standard Cheers bob t

Bob T

 

[nicho]

Re: Gentle reminder...

Sorry if I'm being thick, but what is BYM? (or can't you mention it now that Steve 101's gone there)

 

[halcyon]

Re: Gentle reminder...

Set out to reply to this post ref long keel owners, then deleted it as it did not deserve comment.


Brian

 

[nicho]

Re: Gentle reminder...

You're happy enough to dish it out ref. new boats though??

 

[webcraft]

Re: Gentle reminder...

A few brief observations . . .

1. Steve101 was abusive to me in PMs to a point that would have forced me to do something if the problem had not been taken out of my hands. The man either has psychopathic tendencies or likes playing games that these fora were never designed for.

2. I don't think Kim had much choice other than to ban him, and as Kim remarked in this thread Steve was obviously going for it anyway.

3. Re. the long keeler vs new boats thing - is this about money? The problem is that people with new floating caravans with all the extras may have made it in the business world, may be making a statement and maybe we should all respect them mightily . . . but generally it is people with elderly long-keelers and the like that are making challenging passages quietly while the Steve101s of this world are swanning about the Solent feeling important and going nowhere.

Let's abort the canonisation process now.

<font color=blue>Nick</font color=blue> -

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[NigeCh]

Re: Gentle reminder to Bob Twissel...

Hi Bob,

I'm still around and still sailing. I really don't mind one iota what you say to me or about me as you say it as it is - and IMO, that's fair comment both from me and from you.

I just wish that you could learn either to type or spell or get your words together so that they made sense - I just hope that your joinery is better arrissed/jointed than your words .... ie Your posts sort of make sense once you have done a double take one them to work out what you trying to say ... and with respect, your posts are difficult to interpret.

Cheers

NigeCh

 

[webcraft]

Re: Gentle reminder to Bob Twissel...

Just seemed illiterate to me, Nige . . .

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[NigeCh]

No confusion ....

I think that Steve101's posts were mainly what this BB is about: Asking questions to (hope) to receive sensible replies.

If a poster posts and says that he is going to buy a brand new boat then why do most posters post in the vein that buying a new boat is something totally alien? ... And that buying a new boat is a yuppy type of thing?

What Steve101 had was in the outset OK until the jealous posters posts scum posts. Having read all the posts I think that Steve101 was right to reply as he did.

Now if I said that all people in the UK who had boats in Greek waters was the yuppie norm for average weekend sailing, I'll bet that you would be down on me like a tonne of bricks .... Tell me that I'm wrong?

Till then, I haven't seen anything here from Steve101 that needs having him pulled. None of his posts, even pulled posts were all that offensive - It was all a matter of opinion, and in my opinion a good flame war is good for sorting out differences.

Steve, with the greatest of respect, much as I value your misplaced sense of humour, why don't you lighten up and say thank you God for each and every time the sun rises?

Cheers,

Nige (NigeCh)

 

[lyc]

Gentle reminder...BYM

BYM = Boats Yachts Marinas. Forum url is

http://www.boatsyachtsmarinas.com/cgi-bin/datacgi/database.cgi?file=Forum&report=TopicIndex

 

[lyc]

Re: Gentle reminder...

Excuse me for being a motorboater and not understanding all things sailing...but these elderly long-keelers. Were they built old or were they also new at one time?

 

[halcyon]

Re: Gentle reminder...

No I do not find I need this forum to tell the world how well I have done.
I sail a 27 foot long keeler because I like the boat, not because I'm broke. I've now spent 23 years suppling the production boat yards, in 1990 I had the option of a new boat at factory cost price, or the 20 year old Hurley 27 long keeler that I bought.

Brian

 

[Mr Cassandra]

Re: Gentle reminder to Bob Twissel...

You may be right [perhapse] Kim could set up a [speelchecker ]then I could work on the grammar.Talk about the pot calling the kettle black .I have never been able to understand a bloody word that you have posted until this one .
Have a good week cheers bob t

Bob T

 

[Mr Cassandra]

Nige please

What does this mean
"Your posts sort of make sence once you have done a double take one them to work out what you are trying to say. ?"

As you say .say it as it is but what the hell is it, that you are trying to say to me

I could not even read alone write when I left school . I used to walk into some places and see a jumble of letters and a telephone number on a poster. did not understand what it was about untill my wife told me. Dyslexia.It has not stoped me making a very good living though ,though I wonder how much more I could have done if it had not held me back .In fact I fell a sence of achievement by doing this posting to a forum.
all the best Bob t
ps I have also been clever enough not to have used or needed a IFA and still have retired at 51 . so it can`t be that bad .
Thought of the day.

Remember the conman is the one, who is the nice guy in a crowd !

Bob T

 

[Guest]

Re: Steve 101

I haven't read this thread for some time as I thought it a waste of time - from what I could read, Steve 101 could be funny but was a self opinionated big head.

It is apparent that there are still some people of that ilk here. Sort of - "I've got a big one - look at mine" approach. And, talk about envy of success from people who don't seem to be able to string two words together in any kind of logical or understandable sequence.

Where does this place me? I have a 27 footer but I guess its of the "new" variety - the lowest of the low I guess.

A couple of weeks back, my boat was side swiped in Wootton - causing a small (but annoying) amount of damage. I wonder what type of person owned the boat in question (which was of the larger/newer type (I saw it from afar). I leave it to you to decide.

I thought we were all on the same side here but there are posers in our midst! But then despite being 49, I'm still naive. I hope to remain so.

Geoff W

Geoff W

 

[kimhollamby]

Let\'s get this straight

Debate is fine and if it looks as though users are knocking lumps out of one another in a mutual decision to engage but while keeping it somewhere close to balanced that's fine also. The situation with Steve101 had gone well beyond that.

I think your inference is that Steve101 was trashed and that ybw.com over-reacted to his defence. That is not completely the way it worked out and it is not the reason for his ongoing ban. Without putting too finer point on it his final days were ones of malicious intent to get banned and he got into the kind of abusive language that any boating forum would find intolerable. I don't know why; he can hardly have found this too unfriendlier place to have made 336 posts since he registered in August.

His loadsamoney type posts (there weren't that many of them in reality) generated some negative counter comment but the only time Steve101 complained to me about anything was when he got his second ban which he considered unfair. Five days before that he had got banned for treating a dyslexic teenager rather badly in terms of sexual innuendo so he was not exactly averse to dishing it out himself.

The final ban came when, despite behind-the-scenes efforts to get him to calm it a bit, and his assurances in return, he started issuing verbal and physical threats to other users in the early hours of the morning. Black flag offence here. I'm sure there are darker corners of the internet where you can indulge in that kind of stuff if that's what you get off on - perhaps computer games sites do it but I doubt very much you'll find a boating forum anywhere that thinks that is a good idea.

Bans and thread suspensions are very rare hereabouts, despite all the rumours that I like nothing better than to slash and burn. You have my assurance that we had very good reason to act in this case.

kim_hollamby@ipcmedia.com

 

[Joe_Cole]

Re: Nige please

I don't know why you are asking what Nigech's posting means when, in the posting you made half an hour earlier, you said that it was the first of his postings which you did understand.

I think that its absolutely clear what he was saying.

It looks to me as if you are electing to missunderstand simply to score points.

Whatever the cause, your postings can be difficult to understand. Rather than expecting Kim to sort it out with a spellchecker you can always take control of the situation yourself. You could write your notes on your word processor then cut and paste into the forum. If you are as clever as you say then I'm sure you could manage that.

Regards

Joe

 

[nicho]

Re: Gentle reminder...BYM

Thanks - can't resist having a peek.....

 

[Mr Cassandra]

Re: Joe cole

Pehapse the word clever, should have been ,Lucky Over the years ive employed lots of people, who were marvelous at writing letters .But bloody hopeless in doing the job they were employed to do .No one going to admit it, but how many here would tell their boss, how much time they waste on this forum in working hours .It is not my fault ,that people like you feel inadequate.

Bob T

 

[Joe_Cole]

Re: Joe cole

So your recruitment practices were inadequate then! You must have been lucky rather than clever.

Kind regards

Joe Cole

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by Joe_Cole on 13/10/2002 12:24 (server time).</FONT></P>

 

[nicho]

Re: Gentle reminder...

Nick,

Points 1. and 2. I totally agree with. I am however somewhat sad to see his demise for his postings were at times amusing, and as a newcomer to the sailing world (I came from the other, "dark" side!), many of the questions he asked, and replies he got, were very helpful to me.

With regard to point 3, I don't think it has anything to do with money, just preferences. I like old vintage cars to look at and appreciate, but have no desire to own one, due to the constant maintenance to keep them roadworthy. Likewise I love to visit old houses with beams, open fires and the like, but would never own one - the DIY necessary to keep rain out and stop damp rising would drive me nuts. I love to see the older, 'classic' boats, but have absolutely no desire to own one (though I can see their owners point of view), and again I do not want to own a vessel that is going to take up much time keeping it to it's "classic" status.

With all the above, I fully accept their owners viewpoints, and why they wish to endure the constant work that for me, would be a complete pain in the backside. For them, it's part of the pleasure of ownership - it's just not for me. I'm also sure most could spend more money on a boat of their choice if they so wished (we always seem to find it from somewhere!). However, the difference it seems, between modern boat owners, and SOME of the "classic" boat enthusiasts that post on this forum, is that they do not keep banging on about what they personally feel about these older boats, whilst the "old boat brigade", at every opportunity it seems, take great delight in expounding how the modern BenJenBav boats are a heap of junk that will fall apart at the first sign of a blow (They won't of course), and then hide behind the fact that they were "only joking" (they mostly were not of course).

I believe there is a place for old boats and a place for new ones - I have no desire to make "challenging passages", just to be able to enjoy sailing in my (brand new) boat - that is not in any way bragging, mine is at the lower end of the price scale. Being new to sailing, I have learned a great deal from the forum, from owners of old and new boats. Apart from (perhaps) one case (and only perhaps), I have never seen owners of modern vessels crowing about how much money thay earn, or about their status in the World. I sincerely hope I have never given any such impression in any of my postings. Boating has always kept me skint, and I'm sure it always will!!