Queen's funeral, should the Southampton Boat Show close in respect.

[dunedin]

The large Royal Navy stand next to the Westerly Owners Association stand had no staff. There was just a series of notice boards with images of the Queen and stating until after the Funeral, the stand would be unmanned as a mark of respect to their former Monarch.

Unlike the other exhibitors, the RN wouldn’t have to worry about paying the large bills for attendance at the show, or risking their business going bust, as they are spending other peoples money.
PS. However, if the show had been open on Monday, it would have made sense for the RN stand to be shut on the day of the funeral.

 

[Poignard]

Unlike the other exhibitors, the RN wouldn’t have to worry about paying the large bills for attendance at the show, or risking their business going bust, as they are spending other peoples money.
PS. However, if the show had been open on Monday, it would have made sense for the RN stand to be shut on the day of the funeral.

I expect every available serviceman and service woman will be in London on Monday, lining the route and so on.

 

[capnsensible]

Royal Navy detail their role in Queen’s funeral

 

[steveeasy]

Yep Deleted!

 

[RJJ]

Yesterday the BBC TV removed all the programs from BBC1 and then had a news program from about 17.00 to about 2am. That I thougt was a little over the top. Wanting to watch something last night I was on UKTV and they kept the scheduled programs but removed all the adverts, but left the gaps for them filled with a rotating emblem with some music. If anyone is wanting to watch any comedy, beware the BBC have removed all comedy programs until after the funeral.

Being a supporter of keeping our monarchy in our democracy, I have found some of the news coverage a bit excessive and long winded, never mind being repetative. As I will be at the Boat Show everyday, I posed the question for a topical discussion on what should be done. My personal view is for the Boat Show to open and an announcement made for a period of silence. This should suffice for showing our respect and still allow the show to not loose a day of trading. The poll is showing that majority of forum members think the same.

What would she have wanted? The show to go on. She loved bringing people together and would not have wanted to cause inconvenience or loss.

The very dignified release from the Palace said that protocol was for certain events to happen, that there was no expectation that events or normal life should be cancelled, but that the Queen would recognise people may wish to mark the event in their own way.

The minute's silence is appropriate.

 

[steve yates]

Steve.
Keep it nice. You don’t have too. If you don’t want too for whatever reason that’s fine. I just hoped everybody might. I can’t understand why as humans we don’t all have empathy, compassion and feeling. Perhaps that is my failing.
Steveeasy

Did you mean me when you quoted robs post? Or his name steve as well and thats just his forum handle?

 

[NealB]

Steve.
Keep it nice. You don’t have too. If you don’t want too for whatever reason that’s fine. I just hoped everybody might. I can’t understand why as humans we don’t all have empathy, compassion and feeling. Perhaps that is my failing.
Steveeasy

It seems to me that you are, perhaps, misinterpreting, "empathy, compassion and feeling".

 

[NealB]

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What a revealing post.

Thank you!

 

[roblpm]

Did you mean me when you quoted robs post? Or his name steve as well and thats just his forum handle?

Confused me too! But I'm not bothered. I probably shouldn't have quoted his post! I just reserve the right to not be particularly bothered by the whole thing!

 

[Concerto]

This is the Royal Navy's stand.



By comparison the Coastguard stand has some tables and chairs but no staff

 

[Poignard]

This is the Royal Navy's stand.

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That looks more comfortable than the wooden huts we had to live in when I joined the RN. ?

 

[CAPTAIN FANTASTIC]

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The Southampton Boat Show, Europe and Humanity are much more important

 

[steveeasy]

It seems to me that you are, perhaps, misinterpreting, "empathy, compassion and feeling".

Not intended to. Perhaps it’s all irrelevant anyway as it’s all down to personal choice. The only problem is when we discuss it, which we have and no harm done.

Steveeasy

 

[laika]

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call me a cynic but I do wonder whether you have carefully contemplated a response for the particular question under discussion as opposed to viewing this period of national mourning as an opportunity to assert membership of one team in the Culture Wars.

Interesting article on the demographics of The Queue which might perhaps keep this thread on-topic and away from shouty politics: Tea in the cold and a visit from the King: the people waiting all night to see the Queen

 

[capnsensible]

That looks more comfortable than the wooden huts we had to live in when I joined the RN. ?

And the wooden ships?

 

[Poignard]

And the wooden ships?

Been there Matey! Ton-class minesweepers

 

[capnsensible]

Been there Matey! Ton-class minesweepers

King Charles commanded one.

 

[Poignard]

[...]

The forces are actually subjected to some brainwashing techniques as well. Swearing allegiance, singing, repeated phrases. For the majority the monarch is even the head of their religion.

Swearing allegiance. I don’t recall ever swearing allegiance to anybody during my 12 years in the Royal Navy. There certainly was swearing but only of the cursing variety. But, now I come to think of it, there was a little ceremony the day after I arrived at the training camp called “Taking the Queen’s shilling”, when a shiny new shilling piece was handed over to each bemused recruit. However, even allowing for inflation, it’s pushing it a bit to expect a lifetime’s allegiance for a shilling (For the youngsters among you, that’s 5p in decimal currency)

Singing. Now I will grant you there was some singing. And if pushed, I might be able, even at this distance of time, to entertain you with a few verses of such favourites as “This old hat of mine” and “We’re off to see the wild beast show” but I’m not entirely sure that these heart-rending ballads were indicative of any particular allegiance to anything: except, perhaps, an excess of spirituous liquors.

Repeated phrases. I’m not entirely sure what you mean. Are you thinking of phrases such as “Can you lend me a quid until payday, mate?” or “Shove off, I met her first!”; that sort of thing?



Of course, there has to be some effort made to encourage some team building in the armed forces. Encouraging one’s employees to be willing to face death and mutilation (for not much pay) does call for a little more in the way of corporate bonding than, for example, an awayday at a paintball venue might provide for a firm of chartered accountants.

As for the monarch being head of their religion, that only applied to members of the Anglican church (the Tory Party at prayer, as it is sometimes known). In fact one was better off being affiliated to some other religion, eg Methodism, Judaism, Catholicism or, nowadays Islam, because one was then spared the inconvenience of being marched to church on Sunday mornings. And, if no suitably-qualified spiritual guide was available, one might even be able to seek refuge in some quiet corner and spend an hour or two smoking and playing cards.

 

[WindyWindyWindy]

I expect every available serviceman and service woman will be in London on Monday, lining the route and so on.

That's right, group rituals as well.

It's hard to know you're in a cult when you're in the cult.

 

[Poignard]

Rituals as well.

All part of the rich variety of life in the armed forces! You never know what you might be called upon to do or where you might be sent.

How much more interesting and exciting than 9-5 at an office desk doing accounts or some other dreary job.