Leisure 27
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How do you get around the law that says you can only stay for 90 days and not return for 180 days. Would love to live in France. I would be grateful for any advice on this.
PYH KICKING OUT 50% OF THEIR LIVABOARDS
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Sandy
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There are a number of different visas that you can get from the French Embassy.
Poignard
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st599
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It's significantly easier if you're retired.
If not, then you'll need a French work permit, how you get one depends on what you do for a living. If you're employed by a UK firm, they also have to agree to meet all the local rules for where you're going to live.
Leisure 27
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I am retired. Could you tell me more
st599
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You can apply for a long stay visa.
AngusMcDoon
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But may have to pay VAT on your boat if it's not EU VAT paid. I have a query with the French embassy ongoing on this. Also, longer than 6 month visas require health insurance, and for an old gipper this may be very expensive.
rotrax
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Oh, but they do!
Not always possible to live aboard in a Marina in the US, many bar permanent liveaboards.
In our NZ Marina we can stay aboard four consecutive nights only.
There are about a dozen liveaboard berths there, ten year waiting list, dead mans shoes.
I have never seen a liveaboard in Chanteraigne Marina, but some do live aboard in the dock basin behind the gates.
Torrevieja Marina has one small area for live aboards, a dozen or so boats only.
So clearly not a unique UK situation.
Sandy
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Going back to the original post. Surely PYH as a 'landlord' perhaps 'sealord' might be a better description has the right to cancel/not renew any contract with a 'tenant'. I know that when I kept a boat in a marina that it was on a contract that could be terminated by either party.
Frogmogman
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There is nothing to stop you from living in Ireland. After five years residence there you can apply for citizenship, and hey presto, you can live wherever you like in the EU. It’s not even like living in Ireland for 5 years would be a chore…….
Adios
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As a previous liveaboard before it became something non-sailors all wanted to do because it was cheap (rather than any passion for boats) I'm not entirely upset by this. Its got too big. Hopefully in a few years after the non-sailors have been moved back on land it will go back to how it was before, pretending not to notice the few discreate people who are there nearly all the time but are primarily interested in boats and actually use them. In the mean time some of the more legit boaters are going to suffer, but in the long run it may be better.
capnsensible
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I am guided by my experiences of 21 years of living aboard our yacht in mainland Spain, Gibraltar and the Canary Islands. Plus sailing into many other countries. My comment stands.....
Yealm
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Are you sure - I'd have thought you no longer have free healthcare ?
ryanroberts
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Most of the people spending a lot of time on their boats where I am are retired, or close to it. I am mid 40s and people ask me if 'this is my boat' as I am slightly under 70. Including the marina staff at times. I am not sure it has 'got too big', but then I am comparing it with inland. Even there it is only a few hotspots that are problematic, much of the system is deserted. Cruising is apparently dying despite the youtube kids, and one of the only ways to own and maintain a half decent sailboat if you are of moderate means is to bend the rules a little.
PeteCooper
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It takes 3 months of private Healthcare but after that you can join the French system.
Yealm
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That's v generous..
So can anyone from any country go to France, and get free healthcare after 3 months ?
Or just Brits ?
How does it work?
Sandy
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Don't forget you need to contribute to the French system AND have private healthcare. According to a friend who is a UK citizen with the right to live in France.
rotrax
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Adios
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You're right and really the only way to get anything like value for money from a boat. I'm finding its just not worth it any other way, more of a frustration and a sad reminder than a pleasure. Just too many other commitments these days, its not at all like it was when it was the main thing in my life. I'm bowing out again and doubt I will think about another unless i find myself free later on. I'll keep the tender though, that works surprisingly well at this point.
laika
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They are I believe. With those floating sheds the marina don’t have fingers to maintain, the owners won’t be griping about lack of dredging and presumably the marina makes a profit on the original sale. What’s not to like? Oh unless you happened to like your neighbours on the berth you’d been on for 7 years when the marina decided to “reconfigure” said berth when your boat was in the yard for a couple of weeks….
