PotatoNavigator
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At 2m I had no choice, the slow collision with the approaching mobo was preferable than the beam on collision with a yacht much bigger than me.
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At 2m I had no choice, the slow collision with the approaching mobo was preferable than the beam on collision with a yacht much bigger than me.
DFL1010
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I'd imagine the Single-handed chaps and chapesses would take it as a kindness not to start mentioning Rule 5 to insurance companies...
Also, I'd give a +1 to those saying 'chill out' - isn't that what sailing's for, after all? It'd have to be a pretty bad day on the water for me to get off the boat more stressed than when I got on (although that unfortunately has happened).
onesea
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I just learned to ride a motorbike and believe me its much more true there.....
Been round boats enough, believe me it was a case of SMIDSY but I still do not care.....
Nope I was just adding some where you could nominate people or themselves for stupid acts...
Lyndsey or should I say Miss Plane
Glad to see one person here has not lost there sense of humour, yet (be carefull on here)....
PS I hope its not as bad as the guy who confessed in another forum for cleaning his motorbike chain with engine running (some photo's you cannot unsee)...
jamie N
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As a single-hander and motorcyclist, I never assume that anyone's ever seen me, or isn't out to hit me anyway!
Daydream believer
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Nob of the Day
Starting a new thread for all to nominate as they see fit...
Today it goes to a Moody 42 At&%na of Salcombe...
There we are just East of Cowes No 3 up double reef in as we are feeling relaxed, we see them at fair distance (they are the only boat for a good mile about us, some say that's notable on the Solent) motoring 4 points on our Stbd Bow. They are maintaining a constant speed and course as well as relative bearing to us...
We maintain our course and speed sailing on. As we get within hailing distance I shout "HELLO!" eventually a head appears from behind the spray dodger. Looks to his other man and points at us.
By this time we are within 10' of them I alter slightly to pass within a couple of feet of there stern.
They where totally unconcerned....
Well you sir have earned the first title of Knob of the Day...
I must admit that language is tame to what my misses rather loudly called you, shows at least she knows some seamanship
Sounds like you were an overtaking vessel from that angle
one point being 11.15 degrees so 4 points = 45 degrees
That puts you within the 112 degree scope( 60 deg each side of his stern) for being overtaking yacht-
Surely that makes you the give way yacht ------so now( if i am correct) who is "knob of the day"?
Can those in the know comment
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RichardS
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On the starboard bow and closing towards the OP. I can't see how that can be overtaking?
Richard
Daydream believer
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If they are closing & the op is in the other crafts stern quarter he becomes the overtaking boat does he not? He was as much closing on them as they were on him. Whose to say who was doing the closing. I say they both were. The Op says he had to drop back to clear the stern & he did not say the angle was changing. That puts him in the give way zone does it not. If the other yacht were going faster the angle would not stay at 45 degrees
The Op could be on port or starboard but if he is in the stern quarter & had to drop back to clear the stern then he was classed as the overtaking yacht.
Of course I was not there so do not know for sure without further explanation . If the other boat was at a different angle the other boat would be the give way ( being on OP's stbd bow)
I have had situations where craft have sailed up behind me whilst I was motoring ( hoisting sails) & the other yacht forgets the overtaking rule which I believe disregards method of propulsion
But i would like to see some comment & I will stand corrected if someone can prove otherwise
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onesea
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You are indeed right I did not mention my relative aspect to him I merely stated 4 points on my Starboard bow.... My aspect relative to him I would say was just forward of his port beam (from memory the guy who looked out after I shouted had to look forward from his spray dodger to see me).
You are right though had I of been overtaking vessel I would noted this I doubt we would of got within 100m of each other and this thread would never of existed.
Maybe this forum is just not suitable to have just one NOTD :sorrow:
Daydream believer
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I would love to have you in court for interrogation. I am not sure that your explanation fits. But , as i said, I was not there so we will give you benefit of the doubt - this time
RichardS
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Ah, I see. You're presupposing that a vessel under sail is gaining on a large sailing vessel under motor from that distance such that the sailing vessel almost runs into the motor vessel. It's certainly possible but I must admit that, having never been in that situation personally, I had not even considered it.
Richard
Pye_End
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That sounds remarkably similar to a quote from Cabin Pressure, except it was about a plane.
onesea
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:ambivalence: that is really not something I would wish on anyone, finding out the truth the courts are not the first place I would look...
Certainly seeing how a thread called NOTD is ending up bigger than I expected on this forum
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macd
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Then Cabin Pressure borrowed it from someone else, as have many before. See posts #5 & #7.
Spyro
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You saw him from more than a mile away and he remained on the same bearing, The slightest course alteration at that point would have avoided any close call Sounds like by waiting till you were in hailing distance you were just proving a point. Yes the other guy was in the wrong but calling him a nob is a bit much
Scotty_Tradewind
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onesea = 'Dick of the day' for being so concerned about right and wrong with so much space around you!.
Get a life!
S.
RichardS
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Every thread I have ever seen on Scuttlebutt which starts with one yottie accusing another yottie of being a "knob" and hoping for support ends up with OP being chastised as being the "knob" themselves.
I find it very comforting that some things in life are so totally predictable. :encouragement:
Richard
onesea
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Its a funny thing, Sailing has been a sport I have done and enjoyed all my life at various levels. I still enjoy sailing but there are increasingly fewer "yachties" I choose to be social with...
Posts here take very predictable paths, the enjoyment is not always in the lessons learned but the paths they follow...
If someone asks me about sailing its something I do cause I enjoy and not the people I meet...
As for being so close to the other boat, well we wanted to cut in a bit closer dodge a bit more tide (possibly pick up an eddy and make a little further to windward), in the big picture did it affect our sail.... Nope could we of sailed around it yep (infact we did).
Then there are them on here that say risk of collision existed and we must stand on so you cannot win.....
So I shall infact nominate myself as NOTD to keep some people happy and prove there are just so many on this forum...
Posts here take very predictable paths, the enjoyment is not always in the lessons learned but the paths they follow...
If someone asks me about sailing its something I do cause I enjoy and not the people I meet...
As for being so close to the other boat, well we wanted to cut in a bit closer dodge a bit more tide (possibly pick up an eddy and make a little further to windward), in the big picture did it affect our sail.... Nope could we of sailed around it yep (infact we did).
Then there are them on here that say risk of collision existed and we must stand on so you cannot win.....
So I shall infact nominate myself as NOTD to keep some people happy and prove there are just so many on this forum...
Scotty_Tradewind
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I apologise for being so blunt in my remarks to you, but stick your head above the parapet and you just may find that all is not quite as you had hoped, or thought it may be.
Conversely to you, I have found that the majority of cruising folk are extremely pleasant, especially those who have spent many, many hours being a PBO of their ageing craft.
Hope you have a great season onesea,
best,
S.
onesea
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Nope I said about the only boat within a mile, he was motoring and altering course as he went round the coast....
Its probably where I sail I am aware the further away from home port (and the Solent) Yachties are the more likely they are to become friendly sailors..
I hope you have a great season too...
Ours is brightening up this winter was one of the worst winters for sailing wet and windy we can remember...
Spyro
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Well it's not what you wrote in the first post unless I'm missing something
"we see them at fair distance (they are the only boat for a good mile about us, some say that's notable on the Solent) motoring 4 points on our Stbd Bow. They are maintaining a constant speed and course as well as relative bearing to us."
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