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What's wrong with Welsh people??
I realised when I wrote it that some swine would misinterpret it but I couldn't be bothered to rephrase it. As you perfectly well know, Wales is, or at least was when I last looked, quite a long way from Essex. In spite of that, a good friend on our pontoon prefers to drive to Essex rather than sail in south Wales, where he lives. His Welsh cakes, or whatever they are called, are very good.
 

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Heave to. Navigate. Carry on. ;)
Naa I’m to impatient to stop.

Carry on, Take a good looks around, when it’s clear, Ballance the boat, lash the tiller or wheel, Nip below take quick butcher’s, Mark an X.
I often put a kettle on at the same time, or take care of requirement.
Back out the hatch quick as a flash. Takes a look around, if still clear tell tails still working, Sit in the hatchway like an Admiral or ? and keep weather eye on the kettle. :)
 

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Even today sailing up wind in 12kts of wind ( Aeries steering)I struggled to get below to grab my sandwich box from the cool box. My boat will NOT heave too. So navigation up wind is a no no. I have a Yeoman below as it is quick & easy. Down wind it is far better than a chart plotter as I can see the wide picture.
I have a Garmin GPS 152 ( I think that is the model it might be a 158) connected to it. I can enter routes into that, The page with the routes gives me bearings etc & I have other pages of XTE & speed position & a few other things.
The point of this is that the GPS is connected to a NASA repeater placed on the bridgedeck. It can display all the info from the GPS but I usually show the screen with SOG, Bearing sailed, Bearing to Wypt & distance to wypt. That is all one usually needs & is a 100mm display that is easy to read with poor eyesight.
It is worth asking if you could hook one to your plotter if you spoke to NASA & you could save going below. A button press on the display will show the other pages.
The alternative, is to put the chart plotter behind the tiller where you can reach it & see it whilst helming. There is no point having it where you cannot see it or adjust it whilst helming. If you get AIS you will want to see ship details without going below.
As for Ipads. A waste of time. I have a Garmin Echomax 95SV & it takes ages to connect via Blue tooth to my brand new Ipad bought for the purpose & it is hopeless. As for smartphones with dodgy eyes- forget it.. Mickey mouse gadgets not worth the bother. Sling it in a locker when you get on board & forget it.
This is the repeater 4th from the left
Speed & GPS instrument display (600 x 403).jpg
 
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Even today sailing up wind in 12kts of wind ( Aeries steering)I struggled to get below to grab my sandwich box from the cool box. My boat will NOT heave too. So navigation up wind is a no no. I have a Yeoman below as it is quick & easy. Down wind it is far better than a chart plotter as I can see the wide picture.
I have a Garmin GPS 152 ( I think that is the model it might be a 158) connected to it. I can enter routes into that, The page with the routes gives me bearings etc & I have other pages of XTE & speed position & a few other things.
The point of this is that the GPS is connected to a NASA repeater placed on the bridgedeck. It can display all the info from the GPS but I usually show the screen with SOG, Bearing sailed, Bearing to Wypt & distance to wypt. That is all one usually needs & is a 100mm display that is easy to read with poor eyesight.
It is worth asking if you could hook one to your plotter if you spoke to NASA & you could save going below. A button press on the display will show the other pages.
The alternative, is to put the chart plotter behind the tiller where you can reach it & see it whilst helming. There is no point having it where you cannot see it or adjust it whilst helming. If you get AIS you will want to see ship details without going below.
As for Ipads. A waste of time. I have a Garmin Echomax 95SV & it takes ages to connect via Blue tooth to my brand new Ipad bought for the purpose & it is hopeless. As for smartphones with dodgy eyes- forget it.. Mickey mouse gadgets not worth the bother. Sling it in a locker when you get on board & forget it.
This is the repeater 4th from the left
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What sort of yacht do you have?
 

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Even today sailing up wind in 12kts of wind ( Aeries steering)I struggled to get below to grab my sandwich box from the cool box. My boat will NOT heave too. So navigation up wind is a no no. I have a Yeoman below as it is quick & easy. Down wind it is far better than a chart plotter as I can see the wide picture.
I have a Garmin GPS 152 ( I think that is the model it might be a 158) connected to it. I can enter routes into that, The page with the routes gives me bearings etc & I have other pages of XTE & speed position & a few other things.
The point of this is that the GPS is connected to a NASA repeater placed on the bridgedeck. It can display all the info from the GPS but I usually show the screen with SOG, Bearing sailed, Bearing to Wypt & distance to wypt. That is all one usually needs & is a 100mm display that is easy to read with poor eyesight.
It is worth asking if you could hook one to your plotter if you spoke to NASA & you could save going below. A button press on the display will show the other pages.
The alternative, is to put the chart plotter behind the tiller where you can reach it & see it whilst helming. There is no point having it where you cannot see it or adjust it whilst helming. If you get AIS you will want to see ship details without going below.
As for Ipads. A waste of time. I have a Garmin Echomax 95SV & it takes ages to connect via Blue tooth to my brand new Ipad bought for the purpose & it is hopeless. As for smartphones with dodgy eyes- forget it.. Mickey mouse gadgets not worth the bother. Sling it in a locker when you get on board & forget it.
This is the repeater 4th from the left
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I'm mystified by reports of boats unable to heave-to. If the backed jib and opposed rudder are in balance, and the unsheeted mainsail Is not drawing, the boat is just going to lie at a shallow angle to the wind and drift slowly in a generally downwind direction, depending on its own inherent windage.
I have seen boats "crash hove-to" finding themselves carried back onto the original tack by sheer momentum. If hove-to when already lying dead in the water I don't see how it can get going again.
 

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Big thread-drift warning! Apologies.
I'm mystified by reports of boats unable to heave-to. If the backed jib and opposed rudder are in balance, and the unsheeted mainsail Is not drawing, the boat is just going to lie at a shallow angle to the wind and drift slowly in a generally downwind direction, depending on its own inherent windage.
I have seen boats "crash hove-to" finding themselves carried back onto the original tack by sheer momentum. If hove-to when already lying dead in the water I don't see how it can get going again.
I actually hove too in my first boat in F9 for 4.5 hours & went to sleep fot 3.5 hours with the knowledge that waves might be breaking over the boat, but she would still sit there making .5 kts forward in perfect balance. The mainsail would have just enough wind in it to avoid flogging. It would sit quietly.

My current boat just will not do anything like that. It will spin round & crash gybe etc. The main will flog violently. I do not intend to ruin my laminate sails. I have tried with & without the jib. In normal sailing conditions I cannot leave the helm fo 3 SECONDS without the boat veering off course rapidly. It is so directionally unbalanced that any attempt to trim it will not work.
 

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Further to my post #23
I might add something to my comments to the OP about instrumentation . The picture that I have posted & repeated here, is of my very old set of instruments ( except the GPS repeater) I am now on my 3 rd set & now have Raymarine
But looking at the picture I have all the info that one needs when sailing
Speed & GPS instrument display (600 x 403).jpg
Wind direction- I am sailing to windward on port tack
Depth & speed- 12.6 M depth & I am doing 6.6 kts through the water upwind
Magnetic compass- reserve in event of electronc collapse but I also have a much better grid compass below the helm
GPS repeater- SOG 7.1 kts, actual course 14 degrees, dist to nearest wypt 1.9 miles , Bearing to a wypt 175 degrees ( I am not sailing to a route as I do not always sail to GPS but the OP can set one up)
Magnetic compass- The actual course I am steering 12 degees
So those instruments give one a lot of info . I am not a great lover of NASA but they are a cheap option to get all the info which is easy to view from the steering position & with illumination switched on can be seen easily at night
 

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Because of the self-tacking jib? Not sure how you go about backing one to be honest.
Easy. One just clips the car to port or stbd. I often rig barber haulers when going down wind as well. If it is windy & one wants to heave too one would have a reefed mainsail. The jib would not be furled so would be similar to a boat with partially furled genoa. But far more efficient
In effect the sail plan would be as balanced as any other similar yacht.
 

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I googled. Lots of pictures, very nice. Can't see 2hy she won't heave to.
Look at the fin.
This is a 31 ft boat that easily does 6.5 kts upwind.. . It is bouncy. I have great difficulty going below. I have been injured a number of times when I have been thrown about below.
A very experienced owner with a 60 ft Hanse commented how it was impossible to heave too in his boat & how in one gale whilst trying to do it, the boat crash gybed & he feels that he was fortunate not to lose the rig.
 

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No problem with your current setup. I use a notebook at the helm. Do my planning on the charts below. Write up/rough diagram in the notebook and off we go. It is a bit like an extended pilotage plan, e.g. leave SWM course of 060° for 3 hours, when XXX point is 090° to port 020° for 2 hours. W cardinal then 000° until you pick up the SWM.

..... and on my right thigh pocket is my notebook and SmartPhone.

Getting a bit like 'Maverick', doancha think? Especially with the SR-71 ( and Canberra ) pee bottle.....! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Heaving too can be the most comfortable option to navigate cook or just rest a while. My autopilot cant cope with much wind or sea so its an option I use a lot when singlehanded.
Heaving to was certainly the traditional option when shelter, rest, or just waiting was needed, but any time below can induce nausea, though lying down may make this less likely. Bending over a chart table inside a boat at sea is not my idea of fun, having done it often enough for many years. Having the navigation sorted out and the information available at the helm, by whatever means, is just a whole lot more pleasurable, and if short-handed safer by reducing fatigue. I imagine that most modern boats can be persuaded to heave to, but the improvement in motion is likely to be less than with an old heavy-displacement design.
 

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Look at the fin.
This is a 31 ft boat that easily does 6.5 kts upwind.. . It is bouncy. I have great difficulty going below. I have been injured a number of times when I have been thrown about below.
A very experienced owner with a 60 ft Hanse commented how it was impossible to heave too in his boat & how in one gale whilst trying to do it, the boat crash gybed & he feels that he was fortunate not to lose the rig.
Well it's certainly not a Hanse problem. I often sail a 445 and that heaves to easily.
 

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Heaving to was certainly the traditional option when shelter, rest, or just waiting was needed, but any time below can induce nausea, though lying down may make this less likely. Bending over a chart table inside a boat at sea is not my idea of fun, having done it often enough for many years. Having the navigation sorted out and the information available at the helm, by whatever means, is just a whole lot more pleasurable, and if short-handed safer by reducing fatigue. I imagine that most modern boats can be persuaded to heave to, but the improvement in motion is likely to be less than with an old heavy-displacement design.
Back in the day, I used to race yachts a bit. Cross Channel quite often. Through most of the year. I learnt masses about navigation in the traditional way, with dr/ep and later, Decca and RDF.

As navigator, I would spend quite a bit of time with my feet up at the chart table, smoking and pretending to be busy. Hailing the cockpit with course changes was well received but the enquiry as to whether it was still raining was not welcomed with the same interest.

Was very good at making tea.
 

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Look at the fin.
This is a 31 ft boat that easily does 6.5 kts upwind.. . It is bouncy. I have great difficulty going below. I have been injured a number of times when I have been thrown about below.
A very experienced owner with a 60 ft Hanse commented how it was impossible to heave too in his boat & how in one gale whilst trying to do it, the boat crash gybed & he feels that he was fortunate not to lose the rig.
There will be a way.
 

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I actually hove too in my first boat in F9 for 4.5 hours & went to sleep fot 3.5 hours with the knowledge that waves might be breaking over the boat, but she would still sit there making .5 kts forward in perfect balance. The mainsail would have just enough wind in it to avoid flogging. It would sit quietly.

My current boat just will not do anything like that. It will spin round & crash gybe etc. The main will flog violently. I do not intend to ruin my laminate sails. I have tried with & without the jib. In normal sailing conditions I cannot leave the helm fo 3 SECONDS without the boat veering off course rapidly. It is so directionally unbalanced that any attempt to trim it will not work.
What you are describing is caused by the speed you require to complete the tack.Rather than trying to heave-to by tacking and leaving the jib sheeted, try doing it be releasing both sheets and the kicker, going head to wind and allowing the boat to come to a stop. This is called "Lying-to". It's a perfectly good way to stop a boat to perform some task on board, but the sails will flog violently. The answer is to haul the lazy jib sheet across to windward, so that the sail is in the "backed" position. The bow will start to pay off . The boom will swing to the same side as the backed jib. Next, turn the tiller towards, (wheel away from), the boom. The motion induced by the backed jib and the opposed rudder should cancel one another out and the boat will lay at such an angle to the wind that the mainsail will be almost, but not quite, head to wind, having enough tension to prevent flogging, but not drawing enough wind to induce any significant motion.
 
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