Is this on?

"Harbours full, closed after 7pm, no rafting on what are obviously safe areas to raft"
Seems like a strange place to want to sail

Which just goes to show you need to know a place. It's incredibly busy, often full by 3pm, is incredibly well run, with lots of harbour master dories meeting you as you arrive and telling you where to go, and assisting you with lines and berthing if required. If they put up the 'Full' sign, they do so with good reason.
 
"Harbours full, closed after 7pm, no rafting on what are obviously safe areas to raft"
Seems like a strange place to want to sail
Look buoyo, Yarmouth does not close at 7pm. The staff close the excellent HM office with top notch showers at 10pm.

Maybe on 20 peak season weekend days they cannot admit any more visitors. There are +20 visitor buoys outside, plus anchoring options 1/2 a mile east of the pier.

When the harbour is full the offshore pontoons will be 4 to 5 boats deep so rafting on the opposing walk ashores causes congestion in the fairway. They only break that rule for the annual gaffers rally.
 
I've entered Yarmouth at 1AM and rafted on to a boat on the walk ashore pontoon. The harbour wasn't closed and I was lucky to find a boat that was bigger and still had the lights on. To be honest, I'd just crossed the channel singlehanded in a 45 foot boat and would have stayed regardless. I did pay the fee but if I was getting up at 6AM and the office was still closed I'm not sure I would have phoned it in.
In my case the guy I rafted on to was a nice chap...
 
If anyone thinks Yarmouth is noisy now then they will be glad they never visited 40 odd years
ago. Well before the arrival of pontoons and water taxis. Sheer mayhem often until the crack of bird s*it.
Mind you that was in the days when men were men and the wimps stayed onboard hee hee
 
If someone rafts on to my boat without permission I slice thier warps pronto and they can f**k off.

I was moored in Cherbourg on the silly short pontoons in a 40ft X-Yacht (very quick racing boat but not designed to be harbour tug). There was a 30+ Knot breeze blowing us off the pontoon. Whilst out dining, three Dutch owned 35 foot-ish heavy displacement motor-sailors rafted up onto us, You could hear the deck cracking. Severely.

They pretended to be asleep, and eventually came on deck and refused to move. Shore lines were not appropriate because we we were on a sub 20 foot finger pontoon.

They refused to move.

Got onto the Vhf and Crossma Cherbourg, who rapidly understood the situation, put me in touch with the French Navy.

Skipper of the nearest destroyer told me to cut their lines! And backed it up with a call to the marina office.

Sadly the Dutch were listening, and as I tapped on the nearest deck with a breadknife, were dressed and ready to go!

So, sadly, I have not cut anybody else's lines. But in France, at least, there is a precedent.
 
We always offer to put lines ashore - and usually do. However if in some misguided act you cut my lines I will sue you for criminal damage. Its polite to ask permission to come alongside someone, but you have to have a VERY good reason to say no. Its quite reasonable to ask for the boat to put shore lines out. It is not reasonable to cut someones lines.

I trust that you are posting tongue in cheek...

More like head stuck up backside.
 
I was once gently reproved in Denmark for not leaving fenders on the outside of the boat when I was tied onto a quay.

'In Denmark we always do this so that it is easier for the person rafting on to you'!

I told him I'd used all my fenders on the quayside, and he accepted that.
 
This post seems to have attracted a high number of offensive and aggressive comments, its a pity we are resorting to fight each other.

Its having to pay £30 a night for a raft up berth in October that we should be fighting, July and August maybe. If Yarmouth harbours reply is "we don't make much profit", then let them find some other use for their harbour.

We seem to be accepting these escalating UK marina costs far too easily and then blaming each other for it into the bargain.
 
If someone rafts on to my boat without permission I slice thier warps pronto and they can f**k off.

If they ask then consideration about weight of their boat, tidal conditions etc allows me to decide if its safe and appropiate to do so.

No-one has complained to me about cutting their lines so far so they must know they are guilty to start of with.

Haven't got past this post, what an 4rse - cut my lines and I would re-appear after drifting off somewhere and putting all on board at risk.
You need to take up go-carting or some other testosterone based hobby
Hope we never meet, your a t1t 1st class

I have had to raft up late at night and leave early not to avoid berthing charges but because of weather - we have always considered the other people, that is all that is missing in this case.

cut line OMG!!!
 
I love having people rafted along side, you meet such a variety of people and you never know what the next lot will be like.

To be honest I'm quite saddened by some opinions here. I hope when you begrudgingly tie up, or allow someone else to, alongside that you at least make a pretense of being happy.
 
Confused....please explain / help!

Hi to all,

Could the senior / experienced members PLEASE! explain the rules as to rafting.

On the few occasions I have had to raft alongside there has never been a problem as:
1, I have always asked permission.
2, I have always ensured that my spreaders are not in-line with my neighbours and thus liable to cause damage to each others rigging.
3, Well fendered (obviously).
4, Well secured with bow stern and springs etc and doubled-up.
5, Always asked the inner yacht if he required me to run shore lines.
6, Always ensured that my halyards etc are secured away from my mast....it's amazing how many do not do this.
7, Always tried to be quiet when returning from ashore / the pub, but after many jars on a sometimes wet and moving surface this can be quite difficult.

Not too sure as to the bow to stern situation, as when people are awake and active it is less obtrusive to pass over the fore deck, but when they are asleep you create less of a disturbance passing through their cockpit and not directly over your sleeping neighbours.

Oh yes!.....I side with mlthomas
 
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Forgive me if this has been mentioned in this thread before, but rafting on the walk ashore pontoons in Yarmouth Harbour is forbidden, unless with the express permission of one of the berthing masters, and that is rarely given. I have often seen rafters moved away by the men in the dorys, though it still is occasionally attempted after the berthing guys have shut up shop. A quiet word that it's not allowed, is usually enough to move them on.
 
If someone rafts on to my boat without permission I slice thier warps pronto and they can f**k off.

If they ask then consideration about weight of their boat, tidal conditions etc allows me to decide if its safe and appropiate to do so.

No-one has complained to me about cutting their lines so far so they must know they are guilty to start of with.

Hey why not lob a Molotov cocktail into their cockpit as they drift away, that would really make your day:cool:
 
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