I broke the lockdown...and I’m pleased I did

[Portofino]

So legally and rule compliant, why not drive to the boat your place of excerise and lay on the pontoon for sufficient time doing sit ups / press ups etc .
Then step aboard and rest with a screw drive in one hand and shore power socket in the other ?

 

[Sharky34]

And to clarify, I may have broken the lockdown, such that it is, but I did not break any laws. Maintaing the security of property is specifically included in the examples of what constitute reasonable excuses to be away from home. My boat is my second most valuable piece of property, as I’m sure it is for many others.

There is no "I may have", you did break the lockdown & did it knowingly.

 

[Solent Sailor]

Sounds like the power was off = breaker had tripped so probably not .

In fact no, the breaker had not tripped and the boat was still live.

 

[[2068]]

Group B doesn't exist, other than in your own mind.

It‘s very frustrating for me, because I live 100meters from where the boat is located.

But MDL have asked everyone not to visit for any reason, and I don’t want to be forever known as “The owner that thought he should get special treatment because he lived around the corner”.

 

[[2068]]

So legally and rule compliant, why not drive to the boat your place of excerise and lay on the pontoon for sufficient time doing sit ups / press ups etc .
Then step aboard and rest with a screw drive in one hand and shore power socket in the other ?

Because MDL have specifically asked all owners not to do this.

 

[Momac]

But was it likely?

It is likely that in the process of travelling there could be a possibility of touching surface or some other means of picking up or transmitting the virus. eg opening a gate in the marina , fuelling the vehicle used for travel.

This is why travelling is meant to be restricted and we should Stay at Home , Protect the NHS, Save Lives.
Perhaps you haven't yet understood the purpose of that message.

If everyone literally stayed at home for a couple of months the virus would be gone. However that isn't possible so the next best thing is to stay at home as much as is possible and not try to find some loophole in the regulations and advice that the government have provided.

 

[Momac]

In fact no, the breaker had not tripped and the boat was still live.

In your first post you said the shore power was off.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Recklessly breaking the lockdown should be where your understandable anger is directed, Scala.
I don’t see he did any harm if he didn’t see anyone.
Measures that are too extreme are more likely to be broken.
It’s no different to going to a second home and isolating there - but the rules say we can’t.
...

Appreciate that this is a nuanced issue but I do feel very strongly that people including the OP should stay at home unless it's essential to go out. So I'm in FlowerPower's Camp A. I also think that posting publicly about his journey in a tone of triumph is distasteful to say the least.

 

[Portofino]

It is likely that in the process of travelling there could be a possibility of touching surface or some other means of picking up or transmitting the virus. eg opening a gate in the marina , fuelling the vehicle used for travel.

This is why travelling is meant to be restricted and we should Stay at Home , Protect the NHS, Save Lives.
Perhaps you haven't yet understood the purpose of that message.

If everyone literally stayed at home for a couple of months the virus would be gone. However that isn't possible so the next best thing is to stay at home as much as is possible and not try to find some loophole in the regulations and advice that the government have provided.

Martyn can you reconcile what you have wrote above with the pictures I posted in post 34 # please .

 

[Solent Sailor]

It is likely that in the process of travelling there could be a possibility of touching surface or some other means of picking up or transmitting the virus. eg opening a gate in the marina , fuelling the vehicle used for travel.

This is why travelling is meant to be restricted and we should Stay at Home , Protect the NHS, Save Lives.
Perhaps you haven't yet understood the purpose of that message.

If everyone literally stayed at home for a couple of months the virus would be gone. However that isn't possible so the next best thing is to stay at home as much as is possible and not try to find some loophole in the regulations and advice that the government have provided.

Risk is something to manage not ignore blindly.

If I had stayed at home, perhaps I would have tried fixing that light which always flickers in the bathroom and electrocuted myself. Of course I wouldn’t because it is about de-risking at the moment, and a short car journey with no contact with others is a manageable risk.

In my case, I did not come within 200m of a living soul except whilst in the car. I touched no object except my own boat and my car. I had A disposable cloth ready in my gloved hand ready for the gate, but it was open so I didn’t need to touch it at all.

 

[Croftie]

It is likely that in the process of travelling there could be a possibility of touching surface or some other means of picking up or transmitting the virus. eg opening a gate in the marina , fuelling the vehicle used for travel.

This is why travelling is meant to be restricted and we should Stay at Home , Protect the NHS, Save Lives.
Perhaps you haven't yet understood the purpose of that message.

If everyone literally stayed at home for a couple of months the virus would be gone. However that isn't possible so the next best thing is to stay at home as much as is possible and not try to find some loophole in the regulations and advice that the government have provided.

May I go to the boat at the weekend please ?

 

[Momac]

May I go to the boat at the weekend please ?

I haven't been to my boat since and, following criticism, have changed my views on the subject.

 

[longjohnsilver]

It is not possible to determine whether any harm was done or not.


Disobedience of fools .

This is like Brexit all over again................

 

[longjohnsilver]

Don't justify 2 examples of rule breaking with a visit to "an elderley relative", that ruse doesn't deserve any sympathy.

Is there any subject on which you don’t have an opinion that you wish to thrust on anyone who will listen to you, or any thread in which you don’t make an appearance?

 

[chrisharris]

May I go to the boat at the weekend please ?

Probably not, or maybe, depends...?......don't think so. No. Not yet. Quite soon, probably.

 

[Rappey]

My dingy on the shore is nearer my front door than some of your cars are.
I can get in it and go rowing? It's a lot safer than cycling and good excercise plus I'm not fighting my way along congested cycle paths.
Whilst I'm out there I may as well have a quick look over my boat. The only thing I'm touching is my own dingy and oars.
Right or wrong ?

 

[Elessar]

Appreciate that this is a nuanced issue but I do feel very strongly that people including the OP should stay at home unless it's essential to go out. So I'm in FlowerPower's Camp A. I also think that posting publicly about his journey in a tone of triumph is distasteful to say the least.

Well I respect your point but remain in camp B.

It’s like bringing a kid up.
Your job is to allow them just enough rope.
Too much rope and they hurt themselves.
Too little rope and they snap it and hurt themselves more.

I hadn’t been home for 7 weeks until Sunday. Staying in hotels with mostly NHS workers.
Now I’m home, it’s sunny, it’s a 20 minute cycle to my boat and I would remain isolated if I went there. I find it hard to respect that rule.
If I’d been home all that time I’d be going mad. As I’m sure many people are.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

We're all going mad Mark...!

 

[volvopaul]

All I can say is it’s a good job you did find the electrical fault .
Had you not a fire would have taken your boat and at least each one for and aft or your boat plus the 2 on your port side ( I know this boat and it’s location) .

My view is had this happened there would have been even a bigger public/ Fire/ Police/ Ambulamce/ Hamble River authorities etc etc gatherings probably a 100 people in total .

i have been working through this at many marinas , I can tell you all I hardly see a single soul , and the ones that are working in many marinas keep there distance from anyone and everyone, the Marina staff are very good accepting people need to work , there clients want work doing .

on a few boats this week I have not only carried out the service and repair work I have also adjusted lines and renders that were dragging in the water , I can’t see why the marina staff have not done this , but that’s another story I won’t criticise anyone .

Perhaps now the cold weather has gone there is no real requirement to run tube heaters and de humidifiers .

The main point of not visiting your boat is to avoid public gatherings , which makes me laugh when you see pics of all the key workers all stood clapping shoulder to shoulder on a Thursday evening , plus the amount on beaches and parks, streets on London , busses , trains and the tube.
That’s my view, let’s get on and as I’ve said in a previous post this situation we are all in doesn’t help with people falling out on here .

 

[[2068]]

If I’d been home all that time I’d be going mad. As I’m sure many people are.

I'm definitely going mad, and drinking too much, which is not a good thing.
I'm going to do more cycling, which might help.