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[BrendanS]

I'm not evading it, simply ignoring it. Last time I was in Weymouth was this year and by boat. Don't keep a blog, and anything else I do is my concern.

Don't you think you are getting a bit het up about this cruising bit, when so many here obviously cruise as much as you, but simply don't write about it as much as you. As I said, come and visit Wokingham pub meet and you'll find all sorts that cruise as much as you do.

 

[hlb]

Suppose like everyone else. Crossed lyme bay, negotiated P bill, then looking for trouble free moorings. I like weymouth. Though last time we gave it a miss and went to portland. Portland is nice as in. Theres very little there. Just a few pubs. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[hlb]

Now why the hell would I want to drive from the other side of Preston. to Wokingham where ever the god for saken place might be.

Things I will do. If Iay up my boat I will tell folks.

If I put it up for sale. Like wise.

If I give up boating for whatever reason. I will say so..

IF I give up boating for whatever reason. I will give the reasons why.

I might well take up just anchoring in the sound.

Brendan enough of your piss. OK been a great mate but eough is enough. Yep you know all about computers. very helpfull. for some. But you gave up boating years ago. Stop pretending.

 

[BrendanS]

why this paranoid fantasy that I've given up boating. You keep bringing it up.
Don't you like the idea that other folks here do more cruising more regularly than you do?

By your own admission, you don't know where the Eastern entrance to Poole is, even though you've supposedly been there recently.

 

[hlb]

No. Cnt find the eastern entrance into poole. Lost it and nerly went. agrouned. Must be a bit of a [--word removed--]. Never mind. Brendon will be there to sort things out

 

[BrendanS]

I know you aren't a great lover of charts and doing things by the book, tho this is one where reading the official updates works. The buoys are there.

 

[ians]

I cannot believe you two stayed up to 5.30am having a go at each other.

You two are very respected posters on this forum, and give a great deal of usefull imput and information, haydn your cruising posts are the best and most entertaining I have ever read. you should write a book.

so be haveeeeeeeee both of you

 

[duncan]

hmmmm - having stayed in Weymouth 3 times last year, Cherbourg once, Alderney 3 times and Guernesy once I didn't get to Wokingham at all.............clearly I need to review my priorities; but it's only a little boat.

Cherbourg on a lovely September morning................(for those that didn't get there this year)

what's Wokingham like?

 

[aquaholic]

"But forgetting the raggies for a minute. I feel to be the only mobo actually cruising the sea. OK there may be three or four of us deluded souls."

I think you are making assumptions when you say only a few,
I think Brendan is quite right saying that people just might not post about how far or when they go out.

For instance I live 10 minutes from the Marina and go there as much as possible, i also work shifts so that also helps, early turns I go in the afternoons, late turns i go in the mornings some weeks i am able to go every day other weeks only a few times a week. i actually take the boat out a minimum of twice a week mostly more and for a minimum of 1.5 hrs (cruising time), I dont tend to do long trips as Iam restricted by tides, when available at weekends we will do 100+ mile trips i.e Ramsgate and east coast in the summer.
So in conclusion I reckon I use my boat as much if not more than you.
Difference being I dont have the time or inclination to post every time I use the boat. or I might not use it as much......if that makes sense.
However, I am a petrol head so the red wine issue does not affect me as much as others.

 

[rickp]

Not quite as busy as that!

Taken not 10minutes walking from the pub /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Rick

 

[rickp]

I think last time I posted the distance covered so far this year, I got called a Desk Admiral by the banned1. I'd only done 1700nm then, a bit more now (and thats on a slower boat). Probably not enough to get hlb's seal of approval for what its worth /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I know a few of the Wokingham lot have done more - so I suspect its all perception.

Rick

 

[ArthurWood]

<< what's Wokingham like?>>

Used to be quite nice when we lived in nearby Finchampstead 20 yr ago. Not much boating water, tho'. Blimey, we've been in the US 20 yr and we only came for 3!

 

[duncan]

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Blimey, we've been in the US 20 yr and we only came for 3!


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this of course could be another solution..............if only the fishing was any good /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[ari]

HLB's amount of cruising is unsual compared to most. Read the ads for used boats and you will see 3 year old boats with 150 hours on, or 5 year old with 250 hours.

Most motorboats are doing about 50 hours a year.

Also, most motorboats are as much floating holiday homes as they are boats. I don't mean that disparagingly, it's just that an awful lot of people on marinas live some distance away and the boat is as much a weekend retreat as anything else. If it's a nice day they might toddle out and round the corner to a nice cove and anchor up for lunch and a lie in the sun or a swim. And maybe they'll sometimes have a 1/2 hour cruise down to the next harbour occasionally (not much further or the kids get bored). And once a year they might do a "proper" cruise across the channel or something. And that's about it. That is typical boat useage.

What you also need to remember is that the people on this forum are the real enthusiasts who want to chat about boats all the time. Again, small minority. For most people it's a nice toy tucked down on the south coast which they use on nice weekends and that's it. Bit like an upmarket beach hut.

That is the reality, like it or not. The second-hand boats out there back that up.

 

[duncan]

have to agree - 2 recent purchasers were at 50 hrs after 3 and 5 years and I am not sure that Jez's wasn't similarily low too.

People are amazed when then see 850 hrs on my clock in under 5 years

 

[ari]

That is why, despite all the wailing and gnashing of teeth on here, in the real world it'll cause a bit of tutting on the first couple of non red fill ups and that'll be about it.

 

[duncan]

hehe - it this 'real world' they will only fill up twice whilst owning the boat!

 

[ari]

In all seriousness, I'll bet there's plenty of people who only fill up two or three times a year.

 

[Richard10002]

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I am sure that folks in california could afford to pay a once off 10& luxury car tax of say $6000 on a $60,000- car BUT they decided not to - luxury car sales collapsed and less tax was collected than before. It can be athe straw on the camels back.

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And there you have it..... increase taxes, people have less disposable income, governments dont create wealth and waste a chunk of what they collect, markets collapse, less wealth created, less tax collected.

And that harmonisation thing is bolox! If it was for real, cigarettes would be £25 for 200, rather than £50. The fact that the European Court threw out the mail order deal confirms that the EU doesnt give a stuff about harmonisation.

More and more people are believing less and less of what we are told....

Last one to leave, turn the lights out!

 

[Lakesailor]

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I'm just trying to get to grips with who needs loads of tackle and who dont.


[/ QUOTE ] Confusion has arisen here between need and want.

I used to teach photography night classes. People would endlessly ask about cameras, lenses, tripods. flashguns etc.
"Whats' the best?"
"Is the latest **** worth the extra?"
etc.
etc.

Trouble is only a handfull could take a picture to save their lives. Few ever asked about the best film or, tellingly, which photo-lab to use. The gadget freaks never, ever, learned.
I know a bloke who couldn't take an incident light reading in a studio 20 years ago and still couldn't the last time I saw him.