Buy cheap, buy twice

MagicalArmchair

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I own a Bavaria 40 now (and I've sailed all my life from gaffers, to traditional heavy built boats, now to Mirage) and I completely agree that if you buy cheap, you buy twice.

Cheap and Good Value, are two very different things though. The Bavaria is anything but cheap. The fittings are all top quality, the Selden rig, the clutches, the winches, the steering system, the windlass, the structure, the deck hardware, it is all very (almost obsessively) well thought out with German precision. Every bulkhead finished beautifully, every inspection hatch carefully crafted to make access and maintenance easy.

Check her out: About Mirage – Sailing Mirage

You can see where they have made sacrifices to the gods of cost vs benefit - an iron keel bulb? Underwater? Sigh. However, she is a cracking boat to take my four kids sailing in comfort and I love her for it. It's all a trade off, each boat you own, and most are built out of passion. My Bavaria certainly was - it was not built to be "Cheap", it was build to be inclusive "Good Value" - and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

I love wooden boats, the smell and the soul they have. I love older displacement boats, like Triola (my old Albin Ballad, she would sail rings around Mirage), and I do love Mirage and where she will take us.
 
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Similar to modern car production then. Stronger than welded joints in some cases so I've heard.
I don’t believe it is. Also not as strong as tabbed fibreglass, which is a better, stiffer, less damage prone and easier to fix method. But costlier.
 

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I don’t believe it is. Also not as strong as tabbed fibreglass, which is a better, stiffer, less damage prone and easier to fix method. But costlier.
Seen plenty of tabbed fibreglass that has failed. Inevitable when the integrity of the joint depends on the bond being made with materials mixed on the spot by variably skilled operators.

How can you make sweeping statements such as "not as strong, better, stiffer, etc" without presenting any evidence. Are you structural engineer by any chance?
 

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Seen plenty of tabbed fibreglass that has failed. Inevitable when the integrity of the joint depends on the bond being made with materials mixed on the spot by variably skilled operators.

How can you make sweeping statements such as "not as strong, better, stiffer, etc" without presenting any evidence. Are you structural engineer by any chance?
I've done my homework. Fine, though, you will probably be lucky. I hope so.
 
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