Are POGOs the equivalent of Porsche?

grumpy_o_g

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And if so, is that why they are so expensive?

This is probably a belated mid-life crisis type of thought. You know the one where you start thinking of a Harley-Davidson or a convertible...

It seems to me it might be fun to sail around in a Pogo.

But...

By Jove! they do seem to be going for lots of dosh... relative to what you get. The question is: WHY?

Does anyone here have any direct experience?

I think buying a Pogo as part of a midlife crisis would be more like buying a Panigale or R1 and then stripping parts off it to reduce weight. A Harley is more like an Island Packet I would have said - heavier than most and built for comfort more than speed.
 

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It doesn't seem to have a bowsprit for an asymmetric ?

They seem to be experiencing some build quality issues on some of them. There's one report over on Sailing Anarchy with a new one leaking from the stern tube / gland, & 2 months on Bene have still somehow not been able to solve what should be a basic issue.
 

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We have a pogo 30, have had it for 5 years now so can comment. Unless we wanted to race competitively under IRC I can’t think what we’d change it for.

Yes they’re expensive (the bare hull list price is really just the start), but you need to consider that foot for foot you get a lot more interior space, because of their beaminess, and the performance! They feel very secure at speed. We’ve happily lounged around having a long lunch while the autopilot takes care of things with the kite up at 15kt boat speed, not many 30 footers short of a multi can do that.
We’ve been in some pretty horrid conditions in ours, particularly in Biscay, and it never felt anything less than secure.
At the same time we can pull the keel up for creek crawling or taking the ground.
The interior isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s our preference, we think of it as a loft apartment vs a mock Georgian new build. It’s also supremely practical, open bilge, no liners to collect damp, all fastenings accessible and visible.
 

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We have a pogo 30, have had it for 5 years now so can comment. Unless we wanted to race competitively under IRC I can’t think what we’d change it for.

Yes they’re expensive (the bare hull list price is really just the start), but you need to consider that foot for foot you get a lot more interior space, because of their beaminess, and the performance! They feel very secure at speed. We’ve happily lounged around having a long lunch while the autopilot takes care of things with the kite up at 15kt boat speed, not many 30 footers short of a multi can do that.
We’ve been in some pretty horrid conditions in ours, particularly in Biscay, and it never felt anything less than secure.
At the same time we can pull the keel up for creek crawling or taking the ground.
The interior isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s our preference, we think of it as a loft apartment vs a mock Georgian new build. It’s also supremely practical, open bilge, no liners to collect damp, all fastenings accessible and visible.
I should add that the lightness not only pays dividends in performance, but in ease of handling, no thought of winching spinnaker sheets until over 10kt boat speed for instance. It’s also set up for sailing, proper traveller at the stern, mainsheet to the end of the boom, not the coach roof, etc.
 

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The trimaran is not pointing anything like as high.
Also, the Pogo is not being pushed as hard as they normally are. To windward, the windward rudder should not ever be in the water.

Yeah, but in the Dragonfly as you romp past you can go below and cook a Sunday dinner of roast Partridge with all the trimmings while the teenage niece is up above tweaking the sails occasionally when she can get her nose out of her phone. In the Pogo you need a team of 7 gorillas to keep things going :)
 
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Yeah, but in the Dragonfly as you romp past you can go below and cook a Sunday dinner of roast Partridge with all the trimmings while the teenage niece is up above tweaking the sails occasionally when she can get her nose out of her phone. In the Pogo you need a team of 7 gorillas to keep things going :)
But instead of a Dragonfly, which is a mono-hull with training wheels, much more fun to go the whole way and get foils instead of the extra dead weight of those useless hulls ;-)
 

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But instead of a Dragonfly, which is a mono-hull with training wheels, much more fun to go the whole way and get foils instead of the extra dead weight of those useless hulls ;-)
Maybe, maybe. But buying such a craft might be tricksome. The hulls are handy for keeping quails eggs and porridge oats in though. Try that with your fancy newfangled foils!
 
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