Arcona

[lustyd]

There aren't any situations I can think of where sailing isn't option 1 on a sailing boat except when there is no wind. If there's that little wind then one can just stay more local for weekend trips.
I don't need an engineer, I understand how marine diesels work and how they break.

 

[Kerenza]

Not if your statement is about your own installation.
Hope you don't try to sail into the barrage - or perhaps avoiding the Matthew under the suspension bridge.
Stemming tide into Lydney sounds fun.
Too many to list.
But it's not the point.

 

[lustyd]

Not if your statement is about your own installation.
Hope you don't try to sail into the barrage - or perhaps avoiding the Matthew under the suspension bridge.
Stemming tide into Lydney sounds fun.
Too many to list.
But it's not the point.

Oh please, arrive at your point.

My statement applies to pretty much all marine diesel installations, and I see no real issue with anything you're suggesting other than training. The kedging would be done while the tide is against you during mid flow for a few hours, and you'd sail around high water if necessary. The motor could quite comfortably be used for the last mile or two so what's your problem? If the auxiliary is down then any good sailor would choose a location they could sail to. I've done this quite happily against tide into Poole, past the ferry and picked up a mooring buoy before as well as tying up against the harbour wall. Both aboard a 38' Sunsail charter boat with some serious fuel issues. Practice and knowledge is the key here, not diesel.

 

[Kerenza]

Look most people must be getting pretty bored by now. You say you can't think of situations and I give you some without thinking for very long.

If you are thinking of anchoring to get into Lydney I suggest you employ some sailing tuition along with the diesel engineer.
You are doing more to alienate sailing folk towards electric propulsion (which I am in favour of don't forget) than anyone else on these fora.
I am retired and have plenty of time to continue this meaningless interchange, but let's give everyone else rest eh?

 

[fredrussell]

…There aren't any situations I can think of where sailing isn't option 1 on a sailing boat except when there is no wind…

Dismasting?

 

[lustyd]

Dismasting?

They were talking about conditions, stop being obtuse, it's ridiculous

 

[lustyd]

Look most people must be getting pretty bored by now. You say you can't think of situations and I give you some without thinking for very long.

If you are thinking of anchoring to get into Lydney I suggest you employ some sailing tuition along with the diesel engineer.
You are doing more to alienate sailing folk towards electric propulsion (which I am in favour of don't forget) than anyone else on these fora.
I am retired and have plenty of time to continue this meaningless interchange, but let's give everyone else rest eh?

I'm certainly getting bored, yes. Anchoring against the tide for Lydney doesn't look an issue to me. There's sufficient water sufficiently close to allow sailing and then a very short motor. Happy to give you some tuition once we're all free.

 

[Kerenza]

I'm sorry to break my own rule, but you are suggesting a very dangerous tactic, at odds with the professional guidance. In case readers are contemplating a visit to the delightful harbour only try after taking local knowledge and reading the instructions on the government website.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...8QFnoECAQQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3ZmfYUba1y0eftw5VNRh6x

 

[lustyd]

There's nothing on that page to contradict what I said. If anything it confirms that there wouldn't be a problem since you'd arrive 20 mins before HW at slack water, having been pushed up by the incoming tide, so you'd only need the sails to maintain steering and then pop the motor on to enter the harbour. On leaving the opposite would take place, at HW or within 20 minutes you pop out of the harbour and accelerate away with the tide.

 

[Kerenza]

So you can't understand simple pilotage either. There is no real slack water, you approach into a 6knt stream from across tide.
Fin

 

[lustyd]

Yes I can, thanks, and the guidance was pretty clear on arrival time which means that electric wouldn't be an issue since you're always with the tide right up until the last seconds before you turn in, or when you leave. There would be zero reason to kedge against tidal flow and no excuse to motor for several hours. I can only guess at why you think there's an issue here, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with the thread and you've said nothing at all to suggest electric motors might not be suitable for this use. I genuinely think you'd benefit from some structured training with a professional, it would give you more confidence in these situations and give you a much less stressful life afloat.