Cautionary advice : Do Not let go of your documents .......

[DangerousPirate]

US has been seen to deport / arrest students / professors / professionals these last weeks for exercising their civil right to free speech and protest.

I will be first to admit that some protest marchers on some 'subjects' should be locked up - but overall - freedom to express ones views / opinions is a fundamental right. USA at present is treading all over that right.

We are living in strange times.... The tidal wave of historical hardship is on the rise again. If you look at history, this kind of stuff seems to happen quite frequently every 250 years or so. Ray Dalio was his name.

But despite his bollocks ideas, he has a point; Countries go through the same cycles over and over again. The UK is not any better right now either, arresting people over facebook posts and such.

Go back to the saga pf USA vs Canada dispute over the Blackberry Messaging service. USA (and India) severely limited BB services for quite a time - claiming that BB Messaging was being used by terrorists ... USA demanded that BB release the security encryption to them so they could counter the claimed terrorist use ... BB refused .... ultimately BB shut down and we lost one of the best mobile phone systems ....

I work with many who travel in / out of USA and I have not heard any reports of DoHS or Airport Security / Customs checking messages on phones .... but there are many cases (I have had this often ...) having to switch on phone / tablet / PC to show they are legitimate items. Once seen they switch on - that was end of ...

That’s nuts too. The US keeps using the “terrorist” hammer to shape everything to its own interests. 9/11 gave them cover for two self-serving wars and a total rewrite of surveillance, state control, and civil liberties.
The BB story? Same book, new chapter. Privacy and encryption threatened under the guise of national security.
And now this.
We just want to share memes and joke about the government without worrying we’ll be treated like criminals for it. Once upon a time, that was part of what made us proud: the right to speak freely. Now it feels a little like CCP or North Korea.

 

[Graham376]

Never remembered had to send back old ... in fact I still have most of old Laminated SSR's going back many years.

I can't remember where it said they had to be sent back, may have been on the back of the certificate or, on the renewal form. I'm thinking back 15+ years ago.

 

[Refueler]

I can't remember where it said they had to be sent back, may have been on the back of the certificate or, on the renewal form. I'm thinking back 15+ years ago.

SSR 1999 .... 2004 ..... 2009 ..... only require sending back certificate to the Register in event of the boat being sold or transfer to persons not recorded on the Certificate. Nothing about it for renewal.

 

[Juan Twothree]

Total invasion of privacy. Also I am not going to jail for my anti-government memes. This is so undemocratic. What happened to basic human rights?

Crazy. I am soon going abroad and I think it will be very different nowadays than 5 years ago, when I last travelled in big steps

Apparently, US citizens can refuse the border security staff access to their phone.

But anyone else has to grant them access, and let them have a look around. Including deleted photos, WhatsApps and emails.

 

[DangerousPirate]

Apparently, US citizens can refuse the border security staff access to their phone.

But anyone else has to grant them access, and let them have a look around. Including deleted photos, WhatsApps and emails.

That's not gonna happen. That's exactly like north korea. Either you conply or you can't enter the country. No privacy at all.

 

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