Cliveshep
Well-Known Member
Ok, I'm giving up after my recent saga re: swopping anchors and I'm staying with the 15kg CQR I wound up with as it seems about the right weight for the boat, so I'm now told, (although far too heavy for me to hand-haul.)
I've bought around 100ft of 6mm chain, ok - 30 odd metres - because I have decided to bite the bullet and install an electric anchor winch, deck mounted hawse pipe bend leading to a chain locker in the bows. All pretty conventional? Well, not quite it seems.
The designated locker is right up in the bows immediately under a small fordeck. The boat is an old Broom Ocean 30 by the way. I figure that it probably works like this but this is where I need advice as I've always been a hand-haul man with 10m of heavy chain and then rope. The chain obviously goes down the hawse pipe into the locker, (I've got a heavy gauge pvc receptacle for it to keep filth contained), and the bitter end is made fast so I don't lose the lot. Here's the problem. The hawse pipe presumably faces forward to allow the chain to run out - is that correct? However, the winch and gypsy are going to be aft of both locker and hawse pipe because the area of foredeck enclosed by the chain locker below is not large enough for both a sensible bow roller and the hawse pipe above the locker and still leave room for the winch. I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to set everything out.
Clearly the hawse pipe needs to be off-set from the centre- line of the foredeck or it'll foul the line of the chain from bow roller to winch, so, the hawse pipe needs to face the winch?
However, when setting the anchor it now faces the wrong way? Or do I set the anchor with the chain around the gypsy, assuming it can free run, and leave it on the gypsy? In which case, is there a brake to check the chain and hold the weight of the boat pulling on the anchor?
Where I'm coming from is total unfamiliarity with the workings of an anchor winch or the way it is intended to be used, apart from the obvious of hauling the boat up to the anchor (I assume) and breaking the thing out and lifting it to the bow-roller. Some learned advice on use and installation would be welcomed, but NOT advice on changing the anchor type please - I've been there too many times now.
Also, as I intend to haunt the Boat Jumbles in the hope I'll find another electric winch (I didn't bother with the last I saw as had, I thought, no need for it) what cable size and how many core do I need to run up to under the winch position given a run of say 22 ft (7 m) from the battery position. I've seen wheelhouse controllers or on/off switches, whatever, for the electric winches, and gather there is also a deck controller so one can see what's happening and doesn't attempt to tear the bow off with the end of the anchor. Some input here would be useful as well as I intend to get the boat pre-wired if possible ahead of finding a winch. It's clearly better if one has to lift carpets and boards to run cables to do it when the crew and SWMBO are NOT aboard demanding food or whatever. Thanks for your help, guys.
I've bought around 100ft of 6mm chain, ok - 30 odd metres - because I have decided to bite the bullet and install an electric anchor winch, deck mounted hawse pipe bend leading to a chain locker in the bows. All pretty conventional? Well, not quite it seems.
The designated locker is right up in the bows immediately under a small fordeck. The boat is an old Broom Ocean 30 by the way. I figure that it probably works like this but this is where I need advice as I've always been a hand-haul man with 10m of heavy chain and then rope. The chain obviously goes down the hawse pipe into the locker, (I've got a heavy gauge pvc receptacle for it to keep filth contained), and the bitter end is made fast so I don't lose the lot. Here's the problem. The hawse pipe presumably faces forward to allow the chain to run out - is that correct? However, the winch and gypsy are going to be aft of both locker and hawse pipe because the area of foredeck enclosed by the chain locker below is not large enough for both a sensible bow roller and the hawse pipe above the locker and still leave room for the winch. I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to set everything out.
Clearly the hawse pipe needs to be off-set from the centre- line of the foredeck or it'll foul the line of the chain from bow roller to winch, so, the hawse pipe needs to face the winch?
However, when setting the anchor it now faces the wrong way? Or do I set the anchor with the chain around the gypsy, assuming it can free run, and leave it on the gypsy? In which case, is there a brake to check the chain and hold the weight of the boat pulling on the anchor?
Where I'm coming from is total unfamiliarity with the workings of an anchor winch or the way it is intended to be used, apart from the obvious of hauling the boat up to the anchor (I assume) and breaking the thing out and lifting it to the bow-roller. Some learned advice on use and installation would be welcomed, but NOT advice on changing the anchor type please - I've been there too many times now.
Also, as I intend to haunt the Boat Jumbles in the hope I'll find another electric winch (I didn't bother with the last I saw as had, I thought, no need for it) what cable size and how many core do I need to run up to under the winch position given a run of say 22 ft (7 m) from the battery position. I've seen wheelhouse controllers or on/off switches, whatever, for the electric winches, and gather there is also a deck controller so one can see what's happening and doesn't attempt to tear the bow off with the end of the anchor. Some input here would be useful as well as I intend to get the boat pre-wired if possible ahead of finding a winch. It's clearly better if one has to lift carpets and boards to run cables to do it when the crew and SWMBO are NOT aboard demanding food or whatever. Thanks for your help, guys.
