A sad day

[BrianJ]

I think our hearts and prayers should go out to all our American friends on this day of tragedy.
Lets all join in for a minutes silence for those innocent victims who were killed today.May they rest in Peace.
brianj

 

[Will_M]

I agree.

 

[Grehan]

Terrible beyond comprehension

If you're American, and reading this, then know that we here in the U.K feel too an awful sense of loss and grief. We're thinking of you.

 

[Geoffs]

Of course our sympathies ave to go out to those involved, especially our fellows who love the sea and boats. However I have think that the Americans had it coming to them with the atrocities they have comitted around the world.

 

[Guest]

Re: Terrible beyond comprehension

There must be thousands of broken families, in the US and elsewhere. Spoke to an Irish colleague who has family in NY. I'm weeping as I write. Too awful.

 

[BarryD]

Re: Geoffs - Comment

Condolances to all, sweet dreams to those breaved and long lonely dark nights to those who concieved of it.

/ COPIED - From Geoffs post
Of course our sympathies ave to go out to those involved, especially our fellows who love the sea and boats. However I have think that the Americans had it coming to them with the atrocities they have comitted around the world.
/ END

Geoffs - Do you really mean to say that you believe and think the US deserved that? Get a life low-life.

** REST OF POST DELETED ** Thought I'd save the moderator the bother.

Barry D.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by BarryD on Wed Sep 12 12:23:31 2001 (server time).</FONT></P>

 

[jollyjacktar]

All our sympathy must go to the families and friends and our US cousins. Nothing the US or anyone else may have done can justify such a crime on all those innocent and unsuspecting civilians. Jolly Jack is gob smacked. War is one thing, politics another but the actions of today do not justify the cause.

 

[Guest]

Well said JJT

My heart goes out to the poor souls caught up in this.

Chris Enstone, Rival Spirit

 

[Castletine]

My flag flies at half mast

Too true -

The whole affair seems too enormous to truly understand the horrific loss of life. My feelings are for the families and friends of those who were murdered.

To murder innocent people as a reaction to the issues America stands for goes beyond the boundaries of barbarism and completely dismisses the value of a life. Attitudes like this represent a danger to humanity and need to be swiftly extinguished.

Today, in honour of all those who died, my flag flies at half mast. It should never have happened, it should never happen again.

 

[jac]

I can't think of a more horrific event in world history. The worlds thoughts are with the USA and the families of the bereaved.

 

[bedouin]

Re: That\'s going a bit far

Without minimising the horror of yesterday's events there are worse episodes in world history.

How about:

(i) Stalinist Purges (20M dead)
(ii) The Holocaust (6M dead)
(iii) Hiroshima (150,000 dead)
....

Let's not get this out of context. Yes it was a despicable evil act, but human history is littered with attrocities.

 

[longjohnsilver]

I had an awful night thinking of all those people killed and injured and the grief and desolation of their families and friends. I'm sure that all our thoughts are with those affected.

 

[Grehan]

Re: That\'s going a bit far

Yes, and of course the countless millions killed by, or under, Mao Tse Tung.

Sheer quantity, even in recent history, cannot however equate to the immediacy of yesterday's horror.
Nor does any US or Israeli or British or . . . . fault (and there are some)(let he who is without blame . . ) in any way justify the massacre of innocent people. Whether 20,000 or 20. Arab, Jew or American.

Justice, love, patience and kindness.
Not terrorism. Not murder. Not revenge.

 

[cynthia]

Puts things into perspective doesn't it? Love to all those affected.

 

[Guest]

There is still time to learn from our mistakes.

A sad day indeed, and all the world even sworn enemies of the US such as Gadaffi feel the horror and the sorrow and offer sympathy for these acts act committed against humanity. War and terrorism are the final acts of the desperate and the desperate died in their four suicide planes. No one enjoys the misery and barbarity of war and the taking of human lives. The most battle hardened soldiers that I have known [I am retired serviceman, and I have known quite a few] still have compassion and sorrow for their fellow man. However often servicemen are merely the pawns of the state and as such are driven to find the best solution that will stop the mahem.

Some of the uncharitable remarks on this thread as such are just the cause of such mahem and the making of wars and on the positive side give the rest of us an insite into an aspect of the human psyche. The past is past, learn from the lessons of history, mistakes are made, they are not justification for excuses to continue attrocities on mankind. I find it hard to show any pity for those people who have made such calous comments, but even in my most "orrible" mood I am prepared to consider that as you are still alive, there may be hope for you and you may learn the error of your ways and perhaps your remarks are in themselves a desperate cry for help.

 

[Geoffs]

Re: There is still time to learn from our mistakes.

This is not a forum for political debate, so I kept my initial comments brief, too brief.

Basically well said, Olaf, I think! Violence is not an excuse for further violence. Let’s hope this does not happen. But politicians do no not seem to have very high IQ’s. We’ve all laughed at Bush ’isms and Clinton seemed to have his brains in his pants. The US have a shoot first and ask questions later mentality, it permeates their day to day social structure and International policies. (Remember the Iranian airliner?).

So, I fear the worst, and if the UK jumps when told to, do we want to see a 747 brought down on Westminster, Buck house, or even Ocean Village? Couldn’t happen? A week ago, who would have foreseen Tuesday’s events?

Anyway, as I said, this is not a political forum, so OUT and back to Ch16 on this one. If anyone has strong feelings, they can leave their email address, and the debate can be continued elsewhere.

 

[Bergman]

Geoffs

I have read a lot of nonsense on this board and a lot of mesages that I found very offensive.

I have never read anything as deeply and unforgiveably repulsive as yours.

It has no place here or anywhere else

Please go away and do not come back.

 

[Guest]

I couldn't agree more with you bergman.

 

[Allan]

Re: Terrible beyond comprehension

I am an American, born in New York City and married to an English woman. I cannot believe the words of "Geoffs" That sub-human mentality is the precise reason we have the bloodshed that we have today. I will not dignify him any longer by talking about him.

I have never been so touched, or so moved by the extremely kind words of comfort and concern given to my family and myself by my British friends and neighbours, no words can describe my feelings at the moment and I would probably say something I would be sorry for later. Your flags at half mast have been a great help to me. All I can say is "thank you". THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU

ALLAN...........A YANK IN ENGLAND

 

[Guest]

Democracy includes the right to express your opinion. However I would ask you to think very carefully about whether you really find any moral equivilence between the foriegn policy of the US and these acts.