Why are motorboaters generally nicer than people who sail?

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It's always struck me that marinas are just floating caravan parks, but with posher more up market floating caravans.
I once met a man who owner several caravan parks, and he took me on a guided tour; I have to say the parks were superior in every way to the average marina, especially the spacing between the caravans.

Visit even the most upmarket marina in the S of France, and you can pi55 from the your Superyacht onto the deck of your neighbour no problem; and many do.

The spacing between caravans is a matter of law as they tend to set fire to each other when close together. Plus many have an awning that doubles their size, and a tow car to park alongside.
 

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Searush is quite right, that was an astonishingly blinkered statement by rustybarge.

Was it meant to be funny? I mean, ironic? Very hard to take seriously because it ignores so much reality. :suspicion:
I think I missed the smilies in your post about that studious concentration, too. Hilarious posting though !
 

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Well, naturally. All of us under sail are acutely aware that in days of high fuel prices, industrial alcohol stored aboard makes a tempting alternative to gin, and that ALL mobo skippers are invariably, perpetually plastered. They simply can't, won't and don't leave the dock without a tipple or ten. I need hardly tell you chaps here. All blotto already, aren't you?

Hilarious. :nonchalance:
 
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Searush is quite right, that was an astonishingly blinkered statement by rustybarge.

Was it meant to be funny? I mean, ironic? Very hard to take seriously because it ignores so much reality. :suspicion:
How many thousands of sailing clubs are there in the UK, the vast majority of which exist for their sailing members rather than their mobo members, that is if they're allowed in? How many motorboating clubs are there? Very very few in comparison. Maybe rustybarge has a point in that raggies like the hierarchical discipline of being members of a club and all the committees, peaked caps and blazers that go with that whereas moboers tend to be more relaxed and less uptight about their pastime
 

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Maybe rustybarge has a point in that raggies like the hierarchical discipline of being members of a club and all the committees, peaked caps and blazers that go with that whereas moboers tend to be more relaxed and less uptight about their pastime

Mike, I've belonged to several expensive south coast clubs, and never yet, ever, have I seen members in blazers. And I thought peaked caps were absolutely verboten, reserved only for lardy Maidenhead motorboat owners? (I daresay that's just as out-dated a prejudice as others that have been stated here, in fun or in error. :rolleyes:)

Your description of sailing men enjoying the hierarchical organisation of a sailing club, suggests to me that you've not been in many - certainly not any of the ones I've belonged to. As an ex-private-schoolboy, I've been relieved at how very liberated clubs tend to be - but of course the preposterous myth endures - particularly amongst folk who don't belong!
 

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Mike, I've belonged to several expensive south coast clubs, and never yet, ever, have I seen members in blazers. And I thought peaked caps were absolutely verboten, reserved only for lardy Maidenhead motorboat owners? (I daresay that's just as out-dated a prejudice as others that have been stated here, in fun or in error. :rolleyes:)

Your description of sailing men enjoying the hierarchical organisation of a sailing club, suggests to me that you've not been in many - certainly not any of the ones I've belonged to. As an ex-private-schoolboy, I've been relieved at how very liberated clubs tend to be - but of course the preposterous myth endures - particularly amongst folk who don't belong!

That's exactly the impression that yotties give to mobo's: that they don't belong in their exalted presence!
 

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That's exactly the impression that yotties give to mobo's: that they don't belong in their exalted presence!

What is going on, here? I never heard anything so crazily mistaken in my life. It's one thing if some wilfully-weird clique of lofty-minded types exclude non-members, but how many clubs are like that? I've never been in one. When I said above that folk who don't belong, don't know, I meant they don't know how very casual and non-exclusive most clubs are.

For all I know, members of motor-boating clubs spend long evenings trying on each others' silk cravats or smoking hundred-pound Havanas, sunk in hot-tubs of mulled Veuve Clicquot...

...seems unlikely, but I wouldn't know because I haven't been in one. Sailing clubs generally prevent non-members entering because in about ten seconds on a busy day or evening, the bored public would throng around the bar and ransack the tin cups on the mantelpiece - but that's not snobbery, it's crowd control. Club members can be riotous enough!

I'm sorry if I've been misunderstood - I thought I was perfectly clear. After private school, I was relieved not to find rule-book-bashing club committees & dress-codes, etc.

I've a feeling there may be an engrained, collective social inferiority complex amongst some motor-boaters, which doesn't stand up to any investigation of the facts - but which lives on because no-one's realised how things really are. Most sailing men are much too preoccupied with rust/osmosis/berthing fees/cost of new sails, to pi55 about with social divisions.
 
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Your description of sailing men enjoying the hierarchical organisation of a sailing club, suggests to me that you've not been in many - certainly not any of the ones I've belonged to. As an ex-private-schoolboy, I've been relieved at how very liberated clubs tend to be - but of course the preposterous myth endures - particularly amongst folk who don't belong!
Nope I once tried to get into the Royal Southampton but they didn't let me in on account of the fact I wasn't wearing a tie and a yottie friend once took me into the Royal Lymington bar on condition that I didn't mention what kind of boat I had so no you're right, I haven't been in many yacht clubs but since when did a total lack of knowledge about a subject stop anyone from giving an opinion on this forum? I went to a private school too but obviously the wrong one;)
 

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Gadzooks, Mike, you went to private school and you didn't have a tie?! I'm not sure we want your Bolshevik kind at the club. Doorman! Put him outside. ;)
 

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That's exactly the impression that yotties give to mobo's: that they don't belong in their exalted presence!

I read "don't belong" as "aren't members". How many sailing clubs have you been into and which clubs were these people who gave you the impression that you didn't belong in their exalted presence members of? I have been in numerous and mostly the people there haven't had a clue what sort of boat I have - in fact some I've been in people are even surprised when someone actually has a boat.

The only thing that I have ever seen is a bit of smirking when a group of people arrive all wearing the matching Quba sail cloth jackets as they invariably are motorboaters trying too hard to blend in...
 

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Maybe, maybe not but one thing's for sure, moboers have way more thrust and most of us have not one but 2 shafts;)

That would explain the one the head then? :D :D

There's sociable people and shy people. It also depends on who I'm with as to wether I'm more sociable. One weekend I may be having quality marital time, another wekend I could have mates on board where drinking and meeting are far more on the agenda.
Even though our saily boat may small and simple, I feell like the richest man alive when waking up at dawn in a quiet anchorage or in a marina sharing a joke with the more well off types either on board, in bar, on the pontoon and I know moboers feel same. Often the form of propulsion differs and is often discussed, but it's the fact that were floating and are free to explore that brings us together.
 

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Some say chalk and cheese are different.. how wrong could they be? the king of cheese (humour) HenryF enjoying the credibility of being seen on Col's boat.. chalk one up for Col for allowing him on board :D

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