Which Cooker? i want to remove gas from my boat!

[alexrunic]

Hi, i want to remove gas from my boat. can any one tell me if the spirit stoves are any good are they much slower at boiling the kettel etc? i have been looking at the origo 3000E. or can you suggest a better solution.
thanks
alex

 

[Tranona]

Don't know about spirit cookers, but have a Taylors 030 and it is brilliant. Expensive, you need to learn the knack of getting them going but great to cook on and last a lifetime. I bought mine SH 20 years ago and had it overhauled once and looks and performs like new.

 

[alexrunic]

Thanks for that what do they run on and where can you get them?

 

[jwilson]

I had a genuine Primus gimballed two-burner paraffin stove with built in pressurised tank for many years. Once you know how to use it's very effective - much more heat than gas or meths stove. I remember PBO doing a review of alternatives to gas and they hated primus types, but that was because they seemed to have no idea how to work them - obviously so as they had it flare up, which simply will not happen if used correctly!

For convenience though not much beats gas with a cutoff and gas alarm....

 

[charles_reed]

The Taylors runs on paraffin and I suggest you do an internet search.

Having owned an Origo spirit stove I'd never consider having one again. An acquaintance of mine had a diesel stove and he had nothing but criticism of it.

The trouble with any method of cooking is that it relies upon inflammable substances - probably one of the most efficient stoves in the world is Coleman and that runs on petrol (80 octane aviation used to be the best), providing you use it carefully the Primus is excellent.

The safer the fuel the more of a dog the stove.

 

[2nd_apprentice]

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The safer the fuel the more of a dog the stove.

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Woodn't solid fuel be an alternative there? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[FlyingDutchman]

I presume the reason you want to get rid of the gas on board is safety.
I have the Origo 3000. I think it is a very safe cooker since the alcohol is absorbed in the material inside the containers.
That means, that it is safer than any cooker having liquid inside. You can even safely turn the Origo upside down!
But: I don't like the smell and gas is faster.

 

[peter60]

we had an origo 3000 on our old boat and my wife used a steamer and a pressure coker at least twice a day. we got 10 days cooking on the two burners for a litre in each. if you dont like the smell come to france and buy alcool brulee. It costs about €4 for 5 litres and doesnt smell the cooking times as tested by my wife and I were no different to gas

 

[johnalison]

It's not just the smell; it brings tears to your eyes unless you use pure spirit. Another problem is a certain amount of wastage when the cooker is only used occasionally as the alcohol escapes between uses.

 

[Gordonmc]

With respects to bilbobaggins....

from whom I acquired an American built spirit stove now installed in the galley of my boat:

Its a three-ring-and-oven, larger than the standard marine oven. Fuel is unadulterated methylated spirits, ie not the purple stuff, which is almost odourless. It goes into the tank seen bottom left of the pic. Operation is similar to a Taylors paraffin stove, ie. the tank is pressurised with a bike pump. The burners are pre-heated for a few minutes before the valves are open.
There is no smell. Kettle boiling time is slightly slower than with gas, I would guess but the oven is superior to a gas oven with no hot spots. The bread comes out evenly baked... in the previous gas oven thje bread was black at the back and raw at the front.
The main reason I migrated from gas was that my boat has no place to keep gas bottles other than on the foredeck and anything heavier than air goes into the bilges.

 

[Rivers & creeks]

Origo is excellent. Slower than gas in winter, barely any difference in summer.

It's not just that gas is more dangerous but the bottles took up a load of room and were heavey. Gas is completely safe if installed by a professional and with cut offs, gas alarms, venting the bilges and regular inspections. But most gas systems are inherited when we buy 2nd hand and who knows how and when it was installed or what vibration and wear has taken place. Still most yachtsmen are happy with it.

 

[stevebirch2002]

Origo 3000 every time. Works a treat.

 

[charles_reed]

Yes, I know

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The safer the fuel the more of a dog the stove.

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Woodn't solid fuel be an alternative there? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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One boat I knew had just that, it used to burn any thing, cover the boat with soot and fill the anchorage with fumes (they were burning tarred timber).

 

[Spyro]

I would recommend the Origo. Very simple, very safe. yes it does smell a bit personally I don't mind it. If you don't intend to use it for a while it comes supplied with rubber covers you put over the cannisters to stop evaporation.
Do a search for "origo", they have been discussed many times on the forums

 

[bilbobaggins]

Re: With respects to bilbobaggins....

That's a result...!
...and I'm well pleased.

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[doug748]

Re: With respects to bilbobaggins....

I had an old two burner model which I bought secondhand. I always thought it was excellent with none of the potential for smoke and stress associated with the primus. I had to get rid of it when the burners burnt out and I could not get spares, it being American and ancient.

 

[kds]

Origo every time, and not just for the convenience.
Ken

 

[Allan]

I have used a spirit cooker for the last 6 years. While in France I used Alcool brulee now I'm back here I use meths. I feel, but have not tested that meths may be a little slower to boil a kettle. As for smell, while cooking the meths smells worse than alcool. When we used Alcool we had to put a damp teacloth over the cooker as the alcool smells worse when cold. I would be more than happy to have a spirit stove in my next boat.
Allan

 

[oldgaffer1]

Second all the comments on the Origo, especially about alcool brulee. (I get a friend to bring it back from the continent in 5 litre containers on a regular basis.)
First installed an Origo in my last boat and have put one in the present boat. Well satisfied.

 

[Poignard]

Is alcool bulee the same as isopropyl alcohol?