Very nice boat to finish here...

[doug748]

A cracking opportunity for the right person, check this out:



Wanderer - Sloop Sailing Yacht - FOR SALE - Harbour Yachts Poole

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[Poignard]

Ooh! I do like that.

 

[Blueboatman]

Wow

 

[dunedin]

Just shows the futility of such projects - the second owner presumably spent large sums of money and time and never even got a sail.
A lot of money and time needs to be poured in to ever go sailing.
And then have an old style, long keel, high maintenance boat.

Do you sense it is not for me ?


Maybe somebody will buy to take the engine out?

 

[Minerva]

That is lovely. If I were in a different phase of life, I could be interested.

Looks like you could have a bare bones classic afloat in time for next season - some varnishing, source a rig and order some sails and do some plumbing. A project you can do whilst being able to sail over the summer is a much differ proposition to spending the summer in a lonely boatyard whilst everyone else is out sailing!

 

[doug748]

That is lovely. If I were in a different phase of life, I could be interested......

Exactly my thoughts.

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[Tranona]

I saw that a couple of weeks ago but it had a cover on it so did not appreciate what it was like on top and inside. Pity it was not around 4 years ago when I was shopping for my final project. I looked at a Harrison Butler with a similar history that had never been used since it was built 15 years previously although never actually finished. Unfortunately there was some rot in the coachroof plus it was so cramped inside that I had difficulty getting back out of the forecabin! This one is in a similar vein. I looked was interested when it was for sale before re-commissioning and finishing in 2021, but covid restrictions meant I could not get out east to look at it. Nice boat though and the current owners have done a good job completing it without going mad. mjlewisboatsales.com/boats/32ft-sovereign-class-holman-bermudan-ketch/

 

[Rappey]

Are they steps cut into the rudder ?

 

[Tranona]

The lower one is but the top was a common bit of "gingerbread" at the time it was designed.

 

[DownWest]

One third for the hull, another third for the fit out, then a third for the rig. Don't know if that is still the rule, but still quite a project..

I suspect the remaining keen types might be few... Do you want to go sailing, or just build a boat?

 

[DownWest]

On the rudder, I have a set of plans for Devlin's Winter Wren, even got as far as cutting out the hull panels, before moving country and deciding I didn't like gooping epoxy. All his designs had the top 'kick up' on the rudder; The lower one is likely a step.
Here, if registering a home build, one of the requirements is a way of getting back on board after falling off. Local friend has a rope ladder that can be accessed from the water. Me, a fold down SS ladder on the transom.

 

[Tranona]

One third for the hull, another third for the fit out, then a third for the rig. Don't know if that is still the rule, but still quite a project..

I suspect the remaining keen types might be few... Do you want to go sailing, or just build a boat?

Balance has changed a bit, but my back of the envelope musings suggest £50k+ finished and equipped to modern day standards. Much depends on how much tie you have and your craft skills as things like the pulpit etch and deck fittings are hugely expensive as one offs unles you have the skills to design and make yourself. The standard of that construction and interior fitout calls for a high standard of finish and equipment

 

[doug748]

Just shows the futility of such projects - the second owner presumably spent large sums of money and time and never even got a sail.
A lot of money and time needs to be poured in to ever go sailing.
And then have an old style, long keel, high maintenance boat.

Do you sense it is not for me ?


Maybe somebody will buy to take the engine out?

Maybe you did not look very closely, the boat is built and to a superb standard. It looks to me that it may been used as a man shed and there is no evidence of ongoing work or progress made by a second owner. It needs lights, a secondhand rig and it would be a shame not to put at least some new sails on a boat like this.

It should and easily could, be in the water mid April at an additional cost of maybe 10k. It's a boat to keep for a very long time, any fancy work can be done at leisure.

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[Blueboatman]

I see a second hand rig ( mast and rigging)
Chainplates to be made and fitted
A mainsail and jib acquired or borrowed
Some deck hardware for the jib sheets and main sheet to attach to
Not cockpit winches but perhaps two to one purchase as I had on my first ( bigger) wooden boat.
Nor windlass
Nor nav aids except for a echoxounder and a phone

Oh, yes . Better have some navigation lights and 3rd party insurance and use of a swinging mooring.

And a fabulous opportunity

 

[Poignard]

I see a second hand rig ( mast and rigging)
Chainplates to be made and fitted
A mainsail and jib acquired or borrowed
Some deck hardware for the jib sheets and main sheet to attach to
Not cockpit winches but perhaps two to one purchase as I had on my first ( bigger) wooden boat.
Nor windlass
Nor nav aids except for a echoxounder and a phone

Oh, yes . Better have some navigation lights and 3rd party insurance and use of a swinging mooring.

And a fabulous opportunity

You might find some old geezer on a yachting forum who'd sell you what gear you need at a very attractive price..........

 

[Wansworth]

I see a second hand rig ( mast and rigging)
Chainplates to be made and fitted
A mainsail and jib acquired or borrowed
Some deck hardware for the jib sheets and main sheet to attach to
Not cockpit winches but perhaps two to one purchase as I had on my first ( bigger) wooden boat.
Nor windlass
Nor nav aids except for a echoxounder and a phone

Oh, yes . Better have some navigation lights and 3rd party insurance and use of a swinging mooring.

And a fabulous opportunity

That’s all very well but you may find yourself or your soul saying it should be finished as the designer imagined and not skimping on quality………

 

[Blueboatman]

That’s all very well but you may find yourself or your soul saying it should be finished as the designer imagined and not skimping on quality………

No no!
You get it in the water and sailing and learn what it needs
Then next winter.. ( etc?)
Haven’t we all been there ?

I would think old Jack Laurent Giles would have made a few mods today, given all those thousands of miles sailed by owners over the decades.

Starting with better sailcloth and lighter spars possibly which might even change the aspect ratio, and a ££ feathering prop and and .

 

[Wansworth]

No no!
You get it in the water and sailing and learn what it needs
Then next winter.. ( etc?)
Haven’t we all been there ?

I would think old Jack Laurent Giles would have made a few mods today, given all those thousands of miles sailed by owners over the decades.

Starting with better sailcloth and lighter spars possibly which might even change the aspect ratio, and a ££ feathering prop and and .

Mr Giles is dead it’s your consciousness that speaks to you in the yacht chandlers ,fondling self tailing witches a brand new CQR and any number of shines gizmos.Mr Giles died at the beginning of of GRP production and he saw the material and how it could be used incorporating the knuckle in the bow in the westerly 26 which was more complex to build in wood he would have been mad keen on carbon fiber!……..

 

[KevinV]

It's lovely, but who is spending £10k to buy another £20k materials + a lifetime's work?

 

[winch2]

I cringe when I see wooden boats out of the water nicely drying out but with someone spending hundreds on other stuff not realising every minute she's out she's falling apart. We used to bring ours out to quickly do a specific piece of work then stick it back in the mud asap once completed.
They're lovely things if your happy to throw pots of money at it each yr. Nowdays a set of 3 wooden spars is the limit for this old varnish enthusiast.